[CCWG-ACCT] PTI Separation Hypothetical

Kavouss Arasteh kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
Tue Oct 20 15:31:54 UTC 2015


Anne,
I have addressed that in my subsequent message to Co-Chairs to ask Legal
Consel to suggest a legal provisions to remedy /cover the case on table as
you further clarified.
Let us see whether we can have a reply to that
Regards
Kavouss

2015-10-20 17:04 GMT+02:00 Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman at lrrlaw.com>:

>
> ALSO, Does PTI move to Europe while Community IRP is pending?
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Tablet
>
>
> ------ Original message------
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> *From: *Aikman-Scalese, Anne
>
> *Date: *Tue, Oct 20, 2015 10:58 AM
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> *To: *Kavouss Arasteh;Christopher Wilkinson;
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> *Cc: *accountability-cross-community at icann.org;
>
> *Subject:*Re: [CCWG-ACCT] PTI Separation Hypothetical
>
>
> P.s.
>
> Feel free to assume that in accordance with the Human Rights
> then applicable via the new ICANN organizational docs, privacy law in the
> relevant jurisdiction figures heavily in the decision- making on PTI
> separation.
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Tablet
>
>
> ------ Original message------
>
> *From: *Aikman-Scalese, Anne
>
> *Date: *Tue, Oct 20, 2015 10:46 AM
>
> *To: *Kavouss Arasteh;Christopher Wilkinson;
>
> *Cc: *accountability-cross-community at icann.org;
>
> *Subject:*Re: [CCWG-ACCT] PTI Separation Hypothetical
>
>
> Kavouss,.  This is not an exercise in evaluating who can block.    It is
> an exercise in examining the operation of Board discretion under the Sole
> Designator Model versus giving the Community the final decision if there is
> a Sole Member.  I think we should assume for this purpose that the Board
> has properly exercised its fiduciary duty and in fact that exercise is
> supported by GAC advice.
>
>
> You could also switch the policy advice.  GNSO and Numbers might say don't
> separate  and stay in U.S. and GAC may advise to separate and move to
> Europe and operate as Societe Anonyme.
>
>
> Then Board votes by over 2/3 to move to Europe.  Again, the Board's
>  exercise of its fiduciary duty may be perfectly reasonable.  Does the
> Single Designator remove the Board?  Extremely unlikely in my opinion.
>
>
> I am not advocating for either model right now and in fact have to fly to
> the Middle East tomorrow so will miss the session. I wish you all great
> progress.
>
>
> Congrats on all the giant steps forward this week.  Anne
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Tablet.
>
>
> ------ Original message------
>
> *From: *Kavouss Arasteh
>
> *Date: *Tue, Oct 20, 2015 7:21 AM
>
> *To: *Christopher Wilkinson;
>
> *Cc: *Aikman-Scalese, Anne;accountability-cross-community at icann.org;
>
> *Subject:*Re: [CCWG-ACCT] PTI Separation Hypothetical
>
>
> Anne,
> No single advice against or single objection against shall not veto the
> separation or any decision taken by consensus for those other participation
> in the process.
> I mentioned that yesterday and Mathieu confirmed that .
>
>
> 2015-10-20 10:39 GMT+02:00 Christopher Wilkinson <
> lists at christopherwilkinson.eu>:
>
>> All Member options will be appraised against the bench mark as to which
>> will most securely guarantee to prevent separation.
>>
>> CW
>>
>>
>> On 20 Oct 2015, at 09:21, "Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <AAikman at lrrlaw.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Using the PTI separation process, policy recommendation from GNSO and
>> Numbers  is to separate PTI and place in an SA in Paris.  GAC consensus
>> advice to the Board is against separation.  Over 2/3 of Board agrees with
>> the GAC and takes GAC advice.  What happens under each of the two models
>> and on the Staircase?  How do the specifics of the PTI process interact
>> with the Staircase?
>>
>> Anne
>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Tablet
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