[CCWG-ACCT] FW: Email Lists / SOI s

Sun Oct 25 18:10:39 UTC 2015

Dear Co- chairs,

I fully support Roelof ’s  request, with the addition that all SOIs should
be reviewed and attendance monitored.

Can I make a further suggestion, as we move full steam ahead to Marrakesh.

Would it possible  to create separate
accountability-cross-community at icann.org ///  emails to the list based on
separate threads/ topics. Would the ICANN Female Quartet ( Alice,Hilary,
Grace and Brenda) be able to coordinate. 

As Roelof says we all have day jobs ( that pays for ICANN volunteering). I
personally simply do not have the time to read emails to which I have no
expertise, no professional knowledge.

Regards,

Phil

Phil Buckingham

CEO, Dot Advice Limited

From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
[mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of
Roelof Meijer
Sent: 25 October 2015 16:51
To: Mathieu Weill; Thomas Rickert; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía
Cc: accountability-cross-community at icann.org
Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] FW: Fw: [At-Large] (no subject)

Dear co-chairs,

I herewith formally request you to consider revoking mr. Ron Baione's
(example email below) access to and entry on the CCWG email list(s).

As arguments supporting this request I submit that:

*	The nearly 80 emails mr. Baione sent to this list only this month,
lack both subject (as of late) and content in almost all cases. Theypre cost
other subscribers to the list precious time and bring us (and the community)
nothing;
*	Mr. Baione’s Statement of Interest states very little in general and
and is quite unclear about his interests in particular.

@ my fellow CCWG members and participants:  please feel free to support or
object to this request.

Best regards,

Roelof A. Meijer

CEO

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From: <accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Ron
Baione via Accountability-Cross-Community
<accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
Reply-To: Ron Baione <ron.baione at yahoo.com>
Date: zaterdag 24 oktober 2015 17:09
To: "Salaets, Ken" <ksalaets at itic.org>, Keith Drazek <kdrazek at verisign.com>
Cc: "accountability-cross-community at icann.org"
<accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fw: [At-Large] (no subject)

Is anyone aware of when the next Winston Churchill trivia session will be?
Is that a weekly thing? Monthly? Just trying to blend in to the hard work
process that is strictly adhered to, it seems.

Ron

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From: Salaets, Ken <ksalaets at itic.org>; 
To: Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com>; 
Cc: accountability-cross-community at icann.org
<accountability-cross-community at icann.org>; 
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fw: [At-Large] (no subject) 
Sent: Sat, Oct 24, 2015 4:02:11 PM 

+1.  

On Oct 24, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com
<javascript:return> > wrote:

I suggest we ALL try to limit personal back-and-forth email on this global
list. We have enough real work to do without distractions. 

Regards,

Keith

On Oct 24, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
<javascript:return> > wrote:

Not quite sure what you are trying to say, but I would be glad to ask the
list to comment on the relative value of your contributions to my emails,
meeting contributions, Working Party contributions and drafting
contributions over the last 10+ months.  

As you say, it's all relative. 

On Saturday, October 24, 2015, Ron Baione <ron.baione at yahoo.com
<javascript:return> > wrote:

The email sought was not found in the archives. The point I was making is
that there was no email alerting the community to a known IT problem, nor
will there be. The quality of anyone's contributions is relative to the
person reading them, as this is an open and inclusive process, and lastly,
the quality of your contributions have helped lead ICANN to the success it
is today.

Best,

Ron

This is a publicly archived email list.  You have the same access to the
prior emails as every other participant.  I suggest you start reading from
the beginning of the list and work your way forward until you have caught up
with the group. You should find the email you seek in the process. 

This will likely have the effect of improving the quality of your
contributions as well.

On Friday, October 23, 2015, Ron Baione <ron.baione at yahoo.com> wrote:

The bounceback/spam IT Issue the email lists have been having was a known
issue to the office of the ICANN IT director since Yahoo changed its spam
filter to DMARC. The information in this email chain (below) was not
provided to me when I signed up as a participant to ccwg-accountability. The
patch to fix the issue was available in August (read conversation below). If
anyone can provide me an email from August 2015 or before, from the IT
director or IT Staff, which instructs the members, participants and
observers of this or any mailing list that a patch or fix to the mailing
list bounceback/spam issue would be tested and implemented, kindly forward
that email to me.

Ron

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From: David Closson <david.closson at icann.org>; 
To: Ron Baione <ron.baione at yahoo.com>; 
Cc: Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee at gmail.com>; 
Subject: Re: [At-Large] (no subject) 
Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 7:01:08 PM 

Yes, we first started experiencing the problem back when http://yahoo.com
changed their DMARC policy to a strict reject.

We didn’t have many http://yahoo.com senders on our lists surprisingly so
the problem wasn’t a huge deal.

We were waiting on a vendor back port patch (CentOS via Redhat) to help with
header munging for senders with strict reject DMARC policies.

The back port patch was ready back in August but we didn’t have time to
fully test.

We have completed testing as of this morning and plan schedule the change
for this weekend.

The change will be almost transparent with exception to senders from domains
with strict reject DMARC policies.

In this case, the “from:” will be replaced with the list address and we will
insert a “reply-to:” header with the senders address.

Our testing indicates this is working flawlessly with the vendor patch.

--

David Closson

Director of IT Operations, ICANN

12025 Waterfront Dr. Suite 300

Los Angeles, CA 90094

Office: +1-310-578-8670

--

From: Ron Baione <ron.baione at yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 7:15 PM
To: "david.closson" <david.closson at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [At-Large] (no subject)

Thanks David, any way you can provide when the DMARC email issue was
initially brought to your attention? For example, has the referenced upgrade
been in the works for a few months or is this something that occurred just
within the last few weeks/days?

Ron

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From: David Closson <david.closson at icann.org>; 
To: Ron Baione <ron.baione at yahoo.com>; 
Subject: Re: [At-Large] (no subject) 
Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 12:38:48 AM 

Greetings Ron,

We are testing the version upgrade now in our test environment but need
about a week before the actual production upgrade.

-

David Closson

Director of IT Operations, ICANN

12025 Waterfront Dr. Suite 300

Los Angeles, CA 90094

Office: +1-310-578-8670

--

From: Ron Baione <ron.baione at yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 12:51 PM
To: "david.closson" <david.closson at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [At-Large] (no subject)

David, 

If possible, provide the date or time-frame that the ICANN system upgrade
for DMARC related emails was planned for or ordered by your office.

Ron

  _____  

From: David Closson <david.closson at icann.org>; 
To: John R. Levine <johnl at iecc.com>; 
Cc: at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>; 
Subject: Re: [At-Large] (no subject) 
Sent: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 6:26:30 PM 

Thanks John.

We can discuss off-list if you would like.

Yes, I was attempting to avoid an email discussion regarding DMARC but we
already have a upgrade planned to our mailman system since some DMARC
support is a necessity moving forward.

--
David Closson
Director of IT Operations, ICANN
12025 Waterfront Dr. Suite 300
Los Angeles, CA 90094
Office: +1-310-578-8670

--

-----Original Message-----
From: "John R. Levine" <johnl at iecc.com>
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 10:54 AM
To: "david.closson" <david.closson at icann.org>
Cc: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>,
"at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org" <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [At-Large] (no subject)

>> We are working to provide a solution to this problem as quickly as
possible.
>> We will update Valentina Pavel (ICANN IT support case holder) who can in
turn advise the Atlarge stakeholders.
>
>It's actually called DMARC, and I can report there is some work in 
>progress to fix it at the group that caused the DMARC problems in the 
>first place.
>
>R's,
>John
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