[CCWG-ACCT] FW: Email Lists / SOI s

Sun Oct 25 18:44:42 UTC 2015

Support.

On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Ron Baione via Accountability-Cross-Community <
accountability-cross-community at icann.org> wrote:

> All SOI's should be reviewed how? Based on what metric? What shall be the
> required attendence level?
>
> Ron
>
>
> ------------------------------
> * From: * Phil Buckingham <phil at dotadvice.co.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','phil at dotadvice.co.uk');>>;
> * To: * 'Roelof Meijer' <Roelof.Meijer at sidn.nl
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Roelof.Meijer at sidn.nl');>>; 'Mathieu Weill'
> <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mathieu.weill at afnic.fr');>>; 'Thomas
> Rickert' <rickert at anwaelte.de
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rickert at anwaelte.de');>>; 'León Felipe
> Sánchez Ambía' <leonfelipe at sanchez.mx
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','leonfelipe at sanchez.mx');>>;
> * Cc: * <accountability-cross-community at icann.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community at icann.org');>>;
>
> * Subject: * Re: [CCWG-ACCT] FW: Email Lists / SOI s
> * Sent: * Sun, Oct 25, 2015 6:10:39 PM
>
> Dear Co- chairs,
>
>
>
> I fully support Roelof ’s  request, with the addition that all SOIs should
> be reviewed and attendance monitored.
>
> Can I make a further suggestion, as we move full steam ahead to Marrakesh.
>
> Would it possible  to create separate
> accountability-cross-community at icann.org ///  emails to the list based on
> separate threads/ topics. Would the ICANN Female Quartet ( Alice,Hilary,
> Grace and Brenda) be able to coordinate.
>
> As Roelof says we all have day jobs ( that pays for ICANN volunteering). I
> personally simply do not have the time to read emails to which I have no
> expertise, no professional knowledge.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> Phil Buckingham
>
> CEO, Dot Advice Limited
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
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> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
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> *On Behalf Of *Roelof Meijer
> *Sent:* 25 October 2015 16:51
> *To:* Mathieu Weill; Thomas Rickert; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía
> *Cc:* accountability-cross-community at icann.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community at icann.org');>
> *Subject:* [CCWG-ACCT] FW: Fw: [At-Large] (no subject)
>
>
>
> Dear co-chairs,
>
>
>
> I herewith formally request you to consider revoking mr. Ron Baione's
> (example email below) access to and entry on the CCWG email list(s).
>
>
>
> As arguments supporting this request I submit that:
>
>    - The nearly 80 emails mr. Baione sent to this list only this month,
>    lack both subject (as of late) and content in almost all cases. Theypre
>    cost other subscribers to the list precious time and bring us (and the
>    community) nothing;
>    - Mr. Baione’s Statement of Interest states very little in general and
>    and is quite unclear about his interests in particular.
>
>
>
> @ my fellow CCWG members and participants:  please feel free to support or
> object to this request.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Roelof A. Meijer
>
> CEO
>
>
>
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>
>
> *From: *<accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of
> Ron Baione via Accountability-Cross-Community <
> accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
> *Reply-To: *Ron Baione <ron.baione at yahoo.com>
> *Date: *zaterdag 24 oktober 2015 17:09
> *To: *"Salaets, Ken" <ksalaets at itic.org>, Keith Drazek <
> kdrazek at verisign.com>
> *Cc: *"accountability-cross-community at icann.org" <
> accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fw: [At-Large] (no subject)
>
>
>
> Is anyone aware of when the next Winston Churchill trivia session will be?
> Is that a weekly thing? Monthly? Just trying to blend in to the hard work
> process that is strictly adhered to, it seems.
>
> Ron
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *Salaets, Ken <ksalaets at itic.org>;
> *To: *Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com>;
> *Cc: *accountability-cross-community at icann.org <
> accountability-cross-community at icann.org>;
> *Subject: *Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fw: [At-Large] (no subject)
> *Sent: *Sat, Oct 24, 2015 4:02:11 PM
>
>
>
> +1.
>
>
> On Oct 24, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com> wrote:
>
> I suggest we ALL try to limit personal back-and-forth email on this global
> list. We have enough real work to do without distractions.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Keith
>
>
> On Oct 24, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Not quite sure what you are trying to say, but I would be glad to ask the
> list to comment on the relative value of your contributions to my emails,
> meeting contributions, Working Party contributions and drafting
> contributions over the last 10+ months.
>
>
>
> As you say, it's all relative.
>
>
> On Saturday, October 24, 2015, Ron Baione <ron.baione at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> The email sought was not found in the archives. The point I was making is
> that there was no email alerting the community to a known IT problem, nor
> will there be. The quality of anyone's contributions is relative to the
> person reading them, as this is an open and inclusive process, and lastly,
> the quality of your contributions have helped lead ICANN to the success it
> is today.
>
> Best,
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>
>
> This is a publicly archived email list.  You have the same access to the
> prior emails as every other participant.  I suggest you start reading from
> the beginning of the list and work your way forward until you have caught
> up with the group. You should find the email you seek in the process.
>
>
>
> This will likely have the effect of improving the quality of your
> contributions as well.
>
> On Friday, October 23, 2015, Ron Baione <ron.baione at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> The bounceback/spam IT Issue the email lists have been having was a known
> issue to the office of the ICANN IT director since Yahoo changed its spam
> filter to DMARC. The information in this email chain (below) was not
> provided to me when I signed up as a participant to ccwg-accountability.
> The patch to fix the issue was available in August (read conversation
> below). If anyone can provide me an email from August 2015 or before, from
> the IT director or IT Staff, which instructs the members, participants and
> observers of this or any mailing list that a patch or fix to the mailing
> list bounceback/spam issue would be tested and implemented, kindly forward
> that email to me.
>
> Ron
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *David Closson <david.closson at icann.org>;
> *To: *Ron Baione <ron.baione at yahoo.com>;
> *Cc: *Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee at gmail.com>;
> *Subject: *Re: [At-Large] (no subject)
> *Sent: *Fri, Oct 23, 2015 7:01:08 PM
>
>
>
> Yes, we first started experiencing the problem back when http://yahoo.com
> changed their DMARC policy to a strict reject.
>
> We didn’t have many http://yahoo.com senders on our lists surprisingly so
> the problem wasn’t a huge deal.
>
> We were waiting on a vendor back port patch (CentOS via Redhat) to help
> with header munging for senders with strict reject DMARC policies.
>
> The back port patch was ready back in August but we didn’t have time to
> fully test.
>
> We have completed testing as of this morning and plan schedule the change
> for this weekend.
>
>
>
> The change will be almost transparent with exception to senders from
> domains with strict reject DMARC policies.
>
> In this case, the “from:” will be replaced with the list address and we
> will insert a “reply-to:” header with the senders address.
>
> Our testing indicates this is working flawlessly with the vendor patch.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> David Closson
>
> Director of IT Operations, ICANN
>
> 12025 Waterfront Dr. Suite 300
>
> Los Angeles, CA 90094
>
> Office: +1-310-578-8670
>
> 
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Ron Baione <ron.baione at yahoo.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 7:15 PM
> *To: *"david.closson" <david.closson at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [At-Large] (no subject)
>
>
>
> Thanks David, any way you can provide when the DMARC email issue was
> initially brought to your attention? For example, has the referenced
> upgrade been in the works for a few months or is this something that
> occurred just within the last few weeks/days?
>
> Ron
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *David Closson <david.closson at icann.org>;
> *To: *Ron Baione <ron.baione at yahoo.com>;
> *Subject: *Re: [At-Large] (no subject)
> *Sent: *Fri, Oct 23, 2015 12:38:48 AM
>
>
>
> Greetings Ron,
>
>
>
> We are testing the version upgrade now in our test environment but need
> about a week before the actual production upgrade.
>
>
>
> -
>
> David Closson
>
> Director of IT Operations, ICANN
>
> 12025 Waterfront Dr. Suite 300
>
> Los Angeles, CA 90094
>
> Office: +1-310-578-8670
>
> 
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Ron Baione <ron.baione at yahoo.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 12:51 PM
> *To: *"david.closson" <david.closson at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [At-Large] (no subject)
>
>
>
> David,
>
> If possible, provide the date or time-frame that the ICANN system upgrade
> for DMARC related emails was planned for or ordered by your office.
>
> Ron
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *David Closson <david.closson at icann.org>;
> *To: *John R. Levine <johnl at iecc.com>;
> *Cc: *at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>;
>
> *Subject: *Re: [At-Large] (no subject)
> *Sent: *Thu, Oct 22, 2015 6:26:30 PM
>
>
>
> Thanks John.
>
> We can discuss off-list if you would like.
>
> Yes, I was attempting to avoid an email discussion regarding DMARC but we
> already have a upgrade planned to our mailman system since some DMARC
> support is a necessity moving forward.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> David Closson
> Director of IT Operations, ICANN
> 12025 Waterfront Dr. Suite 300
> Los Angeles, CA 90094
> Office: +1-310-578-8670
> 
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "John R. Levine" <johnl at iecc.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 10:54 AM
> To: "david.closson" <david.closson at icann.org>
> Cc: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>, "
> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org" <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [At-Large] (no subject)
>
> >> We are working to provide a solution to this problem as quickly as
> possible.
> >> We will update Valentina Pavel (ICANN IT support case holder) who can
> in turn advise the Atlarge stakeholders.
> >
> >It's actually called DMARC, and I can report there is some work in
> >progress to fix it at the group that caused the DMARC problems in the
> >first place.
> >
> >R's,
> >John
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