[CCWG-ACCT] CCWG informal gathering at IGF

[Greg Shatan]

I have to agree with Eberhard and Nigel.  This gathering has no more
standing than a group of participants meeting in a bar and discussing CCWG
matters.  The suggestion that this group could conceivably "finalize our
drafting" on anything is extremely distressing.

Cavalierly dismissing the idea of remote participation or staff support
further underscores the illegitimacy of this "meeting," since ICANN will
provide staff support and remote support for any duly scheduled meeting of
the CCWG or any duly constituted subgroup of the CCWG at any time, on
reasonable notice (which is more like 24-48 hours, and this "rump caucus"
would be meeting nearly 3 weeks from now).

I have to assume that the rigors of travel and chairmanship have caused a
temporary lack of good judgment on the part of our otherwise level-headed
co-chair.

Greg



On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Nigel Roberts <nigel at channelisles.net>
wrote:

> Dear Co-Chairs
>
> As a Participant I find this development highly irregular.
>
> It is most exclusionary of participation for a number of both Participants
> and Members, I find.
>
> Are such meetings permitted by the Charter?
>
> Furthermore it will not be transparent, as absent staff support there will
> be no record, recording or transcription.
>
> In any event, although I have not done such in the past, I feel strongly
> enough about this to formally raise my concerns to the Ombudsman, and trust
> he will be able to discuss this proposal with the WG in order mediate a
> position that may alleviate the serious concerns about the integrity of the
> process here.
>
> I regret the necessity for this.
>
>
>
> Nigel Roberts
>
>
> On 26/10/15 23:43, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> As discussed in our last session, a lot of us will be attending the IGF
>> in João Pessoa, Brazil, and it would be a good opportunity to continue
>> advancing our work to finalize the drafting of the proposal.
>>
>> Pedro has kindly arranged a room for us to work on Tuesday, November 10
>> and on Friday, November 13, from 9 am to 12 pm both days. Please note
>> that since this is not a formal CCWG meeting, ICANN will not be able to
>> provide staff support or any remote participation capability for this
>> informal meeting. Of course, no travel support either as this is only a
>> plan to take advantage of the situation that many of us will already be
>> there for the IGF.
>>
>> In order to organize ourselves, I suggest as a first step that we know
>> who is attending so that we can figure out the logistics to make this
>> work. Therefore, I would kindly encourage you to please fill in your
>> name in the spreadsheet linked below so we can have a better idea of how
>> we could organize for work.
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1diDLY_uFmvqkpPmI858MfRx4_0FMTGYLMuDFm3lVT68/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>>
>> This is a great opportunity to finalize our drafting. Let’s make the
>> best out of it.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>> León
>>
>>
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