[CCWG-ACCT] CCWG informal gathering at IGF

[farzaneh badii]

Hi

I suggest to hold the meeting in a room that has remote participation
equipment and allows everyone to participate. otherwise I don't think it
should be held. If you hold the meeting early in the morning you might be
able to hold it in a workshop room that has remote participation equipment.
or you can hold it after the official meetings. But doubtful that we can
get a room for 3 hours ...

Best

Farzaneh

On 27 October 2015 at 17:42, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:

> James,
>
> I have a great deal of respect and affection for both you and Leon.
> However, your email and Leon's email do not align.  Leon's email clearly
> envisages two three hour sessions in a "room in which to work."  And that
> work is identified as "a good opportunity to continue advancing our work
> to finalize the drafting of the proposal."  And the next step is to
> figure out "how to organize for work."  With the ultimate goal to "make the
> best out of" this "great opportunity to finalize our drafting."
>
> This does not sound like merely the "CCWG Lounge," and suspicions, once
> aroused, tend to be inflamed rather than assuaged by statements that can be
> seen as "move along folks, nothing to see here."  This may not have been
> your intention, especially since your vision for this serendipitous
> gathering seems quite different than Leon's, but unfortunately it has that
> effect.
>
> I suggest that this ill-conceived gathering be rethought or abandoned.  As
> stated, it sadly fails any test of transparency, accountability or
> inclusiveness.
>
> Greg
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 12:27 PM, James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net>
> wrote:
>
>> This is not a meeting of the CCWG but rather a room for CCWG participants
>> to work together in. NO decisions or work that would not have already taken
>> place outside of the formal CCWG meetings will take place. It is merely a
>> way for the CCWG participants who find themselves in Brazil to be able to
>> find each other easily.
>>
>> -James
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 27/10/2015, 4:08 p.m., "
>> accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org on behalf of Nigel
>> Roberts" <accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
>> nigel at channelisles.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Dear Co-Chairs
>> >
>> >As a Participant I find this development highly irregular.
>> >
>> >It is most exclusionary of participation for a number of both
>> >Participants and Members, I find.
>> >
>> >Are such meetings permitted by the Charter?
>> >
>> >Furthermore it will not be transparent, as absent staff support there
>> >will be no record, recording or transcription.
>> >
>> >In any event, although I have not done such in the past, I feel strongly
>> >enough about this to formally raise my concerns to the Ombudsman, and
>> >trust he will be able to discuss this proposal with the WG in order
>> >mediate a position that may alleviate the serious concerns about the
>> >integrity of the process here.
>> >
>> >I regret the necessity for this.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Nigel Roberts
>> >
>> >On 26/10/15 23:43, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote:
>> >> Dear all,
>> >>
>> >> As discussed in our last session, a lot of us will be attending the IGF
>> >> in João Pessoa, Brazil, and it would be a good opportunity to continue
>> >> advancing our work to finalize the drafting of the proposal.
>> >>
>> >> Pedro has kindly arranged a room for us to work on Tuesday, November 10
>> >> and on Friday, November 13, from 9 am to 12 pm both days. Please note
>> >> that since this is not a formal CCWG meeting, ICANN will not be able to
>> >> provide staff support or any remote participation capability for this
>> >> informal meeting. Of course, no travel support either as this is only a
>> >> plan to take advantage of the situation that many of us will already be
>> >> there for the IGF.
>> >>
>> >> In order to organize ourselves, I suggest as a first step that we know
>> >> who is attending so that we can figure out the logistics to make this
>> >> work. Therefore, I would kindly encourage you to please fill in your
>> >> name in the spreadsheet linked below so we can have a better idea of
>> how
>> >> we could organize for work.
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1diDLY_uFmvqkpPmI858MfRx4_0FMTGYLMuDFm3lVT68/edit?usp=sharing
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> This is a great opportunity to finalize our drafting. Let’s make the
>> >> best out of it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> León
>> >>
>> >>
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Farzaneh
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