[CCWG-ACCT] On Stress Test 18

Greg Shatan gregshatanipc at gmail.com
Tue Oct 27 17:43:45 UTC 2015


Arun,

This is not my fight, but I don't understand your position.  Your reliance
on the 3 March 2015 email is incorrect on its face -- it does not say that
Denmark opposed Stress Test 18.

In any event you have the email intervention from Finn Petersen (signed
"GAC - Dk") asking you tor correct it.  I don't think you need any further
requests from Denmark to correct your article.  It would be the responsible
thing to do.

If this remains uncorrected, in combination with the passage that Olga
Cavalli quoted, it gives the appearance that your article is a stick
stirring the ashes, hoping to rekindle a fire that has gone out, rather
than a serious piece of reporting or analysis.  I hope that you did not
intend to be a pyromaniac -- it would be a waste of your time and skills,
and counterproductive in the larger scheme of things.

Greg



On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Arun Mohan Sukumar <
arun.sukumar at orfonline.org> wrote:

> Thanks Greg - I would need to link to an e-mail intervention from DK or
> GAC meeting transcripts (when Dublin ones are out) to make this correction.
> Saying this post the article's publication is not quite the same.
>
> Best,
>
> --
> Head, Cyber Initiative
> Observer Research Foundation, New Delhi
> http://amsukumar.tumblr.com
> +91-9871943272
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Arun,
>>
>> I just read the email you referred to.  It does not support the
>> proposition that Stress Test 18 is unacceptable to Denmark, or even that
>> Denmark has a position on Stress Test 18.  It is a fairly nuanced and
>> non-dispositive email, contributing to the overall discourse at the time it
>> was written.  Furthermore, it was written 3 March 2015, which in "CCWG
>> time" is several millennia ago -- a further reason not to rely on it as a
>> statement of "position" in late October.
>>
>> I suggest that you do not need to wait for further instructions from
>> Denmark in order to correct your piece, especially since Denmark has
>> already told you in no uncertain terms that "your statement concerning
>> Denmark is wrong!!!!"
>>
>> I look forward to reading the revised version of your article.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Greg Shatan
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Arun Mohan Sukumar <
>> arun.sukumar at orfonline.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Finn, this is what I went by:
>>> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/wp1/2015-March/000071.html
>>>
>>> If the Danish position has changed, happy to correct.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Head, Cyber Initiative
>>> Observer Research Foundation, New Delhi
>>> http://amsukumar.tumblr.com
>>> +91-9871943272
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Finn Petersen <FinPet at erst.dk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Arun,
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts - here is one!
>>>>
>>>> You write "Several countries, notably Brazil, Spain, Denmark and
>>>> Argentina, see the proposed modification as unacceptable."
>>>>
>>>> Why did you include Denmark in the group of countries that oppose ST18
>>>>  - your statement concerning Denmark is wrong!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Please correct this.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Finn, GAC - Dk
>>>>
>>>> Sendt fra min iPad
>>>>
>>>> Den 27. okt. 2015 kl. 17.42 skrev "arun.sukumar at orfonline.org" <
>>>> arun.sukumar at orfonline.org>:
>>>>
>>>> CCWGers, plugging here a post I wrote on discussions around Stress Test
>>>> 18.
>>>>
>>>> http://blogs.cfr.org/cyber/2015/10/27/governments-v-icann-the-last-battle-before-the-iana-transition/
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts welcome!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Arun
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> Head, Cyber Initiative
>>>> Observer Research Foundation, New Delhi
>>>> http://amsukumar.tumblr.com/
>>>> Ph: +91-9871943272
>>>>
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