[CCWG-ACCT] Perhaps a variation...

WUKnoben wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de
Wed Sep 2 20:11:32 UTC 2015


Alan,

please don't (mis)use parts of my name in this context :-)

Best regards

Wolf-Ulrich


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- 
From: Alan Greenberg
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 7:10 PM
To: CCWG Accountability
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Perhaps a variation...

I will try to address all of the points raised.

I am my colleagues had no illusions about how my message would be
received. We are at a point where some of us feel that there are too
many rough edges to get this proposal sufficiently done to allow it
to meet what we believe are the NTIA criteria, in the time we have.
So we were looking at alternatives, and this was one that seems to
make some sense. If we are wrong and the current proposal can be put
in shape, dandy. But I think it will be a tough haul.

It is not a magic bullet, and I agree that getting closure without
going through another full comment period would be a challenge.

Regarding what does it simplify. Takeout the membership option
removes a number of critical changes. Perhaps easy for the lawyers to
draft, but a challenge to get right given the onerousness of not
getting all of the details perfect. It removes the budget and plan
veto (which I understand some consider mandatory) and that eliminates
a large chuck of work. At the same time, it preserves most of the
CMSM structure that we have fleshed out (but still need to specify
processes in detail as we have heard from advisors and Board members.

I do not believe that CWG requirements are an issue. The IANA budget
will be protected by Bylaw and that can still be done, including the
community control over it.

The overall message I was trying to send is that after careful
analysis of the 2nd draft proposal, I and we find a lot of problems
that need to be addressed and are not at all convinced that we see
how it can be done by Dublin. I felt I had an obligation to raise the
issue publicly, regardless of the scorn from some.

As I already implied, if we are the only ones with concerns, then
let's keep going forward with what we have, and hope that At-Large is
crying wolf (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cry_Wolf for the
cultural reference).

Alan

At 01/09/2015 10:26 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
>The At-Large group advising on Accountability and IANA matters met today 
>(as we have been twice weekly for the last while). It is becoming 
>increasingly clearer that the CMSM model still has a LOT of rough edges 
>that need to be finalized prior to putting forward our proposal as the 
>accountability part of the IANA transition, and my recollection is that in 
>Buenos Aires we were told in no uncertain terms that the proposal needed to 
>be complete and fully implementable prior to being accepted by the NTIA and 
>if necessary, Congress. I fear that the current plan will not meet that 
>target.
>
>So, although I am hesitant to suggest we switch gears at this time, I am 
>not sure we have a real alternative if we want to effect the transition.
>
>The At-Large group was very supportive of considering a variation of what 
>we now have, specifically, a Community Mechanism as a Sole Designator 
>(CMSD).
>
>Following the Buenos Aires meeting, and prior to the CMSM model being 
>introduced, many in the CCWG were willing to consider the Empowered 
>Designator model, and this is a variant that uses the simplified CMSx 
>structure but with the lighter-weight designator mechanism which will be 
>significantly easier to set up. It also addresses the concerns of some with 
>moving to a Membership model for ICANN.
>
>I am sending this on my own, but with the knowledge that the concept had a 
>lot of support in my community.
>
>Alan

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