[CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Proposed WHOIS language
CW Mail
mail at christopherwilkinson.eu
Thu Sep 3 19:52:34 UTC 2015
Good evening:
With all my admiration for this excursion into 'track-changes' and many thanks to Greg for the .pdf formats:
a) I have not understood why these texts need to be agreed upon now. Isn't this par excellence a case to be referred to "work stream 2" - ?
b) WHOIS policy is being addressed in ICANN through several parallel processes, to the point that I have every expectation that they will give rise to inconsistent outcomes.
We do not need CCWG to add to the process.
c) In any event, I absolutely disagree to including anywhere the repeated references to " … a commitment that becomes part of ICANN Bylaws, regarding enforcement of the current WHOIS … "
1. Current WHOIS policy has proven to be unenforceable for more than a decade.
2. Current WHOIS policy, should it be enforced, jeopardises Registrars and Registrants in jurisdictions where the policy conflicts with applicable local law.
3. All of the above will have to be reviewed by the community as soon as ICANN proposes how to implement the recommendations for a new gTLD Directory Service.
I suggest that CCWG drop the whole topic for the time being pending ICANN's proposals for new gTLD Directory Services.
Regards
CW
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Proposed WHOIS language
> Date: 3 Sep 2015 21:05:18 GMT+02:00
> To: Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez <crg at isoc-cr.org>
> Cc: "accountability-cross-community at icann.org" <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
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> This seems to fall into the "no good deed goes unpunished" category. In any event, and in spite of not being asked, I have taken my time to convert the three documents to the PDF format, because I'm a nice guy.
>
> Greg
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> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez <crg at isoc-cr.org> wrote:
> My linux based, open source, FREE word processor opens/saves MS Word documents without any trouble………. So I don’t know what the issue is With Dr. Lisse´s IPad mini...
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>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Nigel Roberts <nigel at channelisles.net> wrote:
>>
>> To be Frank, it's pretty rude to expect everyone to use the same software supplier. (In fact, in some circumstances it's even anti-competitive).
>>
>> Why can't we use open standards, again?
>>
>> On 09/03/2015 07:46 PM, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez wrote:
>>> I welcome your increasing flexibility
>>> the Apple store a a free app to read MS word documents now that should
>>> work in you iPad mini
>>>
>>> Good luck
>>>
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>>>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na
>>>> <mailto:el at lisse.na>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am not even going to bother to ask, for, the umpteenth time, that
>>>> documents are posted in an open format.
>>>>
>>>> el
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>>>> --
>>>> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
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>>>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 17:24, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> All:
>>>>>
>>>>> For what it's worth, I prepared track changes comparisons of the
>>>>> following:
>>>>>
>>>>> CCWG Proposal vs. AoC language
>>>>> Board Proposal vs. AoC language
>>>>> Board Proposal vs. CCWG Proposal
>>>>>
>>>>> These are attached.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Malcolm Hutty <malcolm at linx.net
>>>>> <mailto:malcolm at linx.net>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 03/09/2015 13:27, Bruce Tonkin wrote:
>>>>> > Hello Malcolm,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 02/09/2015 02:24, Bruce Tonkin wrote:
>>>>> >> ICANN commits to enforcing its policy relating to the current WHOIS
>>>>> >> and any future gTLD Directory Service,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > To be clear - we are not talking about any specific service here with any pre-conceived set of requirements.
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed. But I did think there was a risk that wording could be
>>>>> (mis)interpreted to suggest that we are - and then used to that
>>>>> effect
>>>>> when discussing what that future Directory Service might look like.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > We are talking about a new service that is established as a result of a policy development process in the GNSO. If it helps you could add the text:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "any future gTLD DIrectory Service, established via ICANN's bottom up policy development process".
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that would help.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only point that I'm making is that we aren't trying to
>>>>> pre-empt that
>>>>> process or use this insertion into the Bylaws to direct certain
>>>>> outcomes
>>>>> from it. On that, I think we're all agreed; it's just a matter of
>>>>> being
>>>>> clear in the language we choose.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> <CCWG vs AoC Whois Review Comparison.docx>
>>>>> <Board vs AoC Whois Review Comparison.docx>
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