[CCWG-ACCT] [ccwg-internet-governance] Kavouss alternative proposal

[Greg Shatan]

If we are in a negotiation, we need to know that....

On Saturday, September 26, 2015, James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net>
wrote:

> Some of us feel that membership is the only viable means to implement the
> level of accountability that we require.
> I have a more open mind than some people participating in these
> conversations and will be open to constructive dialogue, but not to being
> talked down to and being told that we need to change the fundamentals of
> our proposal because one stakeholder (Albeit an important one) has
> disagreed with the work and the outcome of the community process. And I’m
> getting a little tired of such points being repeated.
>
> -james
>
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> From: Seun Ojedeji
> Date: Saturday 26 September 2015 18:03
> To: James Gannon
> Cc: Kavouss Arasteh, Dr Eberhard W Lisse, Lisse Eberhard, Accountability
> Cross Community
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Kavouss alternative proposal
>
> @James without making any preference on what have been shared, I think you
> seem to focus on the model and not necessarily the required community
> powers (which is the accountability enhancement).
>
> Membership is not a requirement for accountability and certainly its not a
> requirement by NTIA. What is a requirement is proof that ICANN would be
> more accountable post-transition (and I said ICANN because its include not
> just board/staff but also the community).
>
> So I suggest we approach this with a more open mind and focus on what is
> required and not what we want.
>
> Regards
>
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 9:45 AM, James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','james at cyberinvasion.net');>> wrote:
>
>> But it means we would not have a membership model no?, which would be a
>> huge change.
>>
>> -James
>>
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>> On 26/09/2015 17:43, "accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org');>
>> on behalf of Kavouss Arasteh" <
>> accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org');>
>> on behalf of kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>> >Dear All
>> >There is community mechanism through standing Panel
>> >Pls  kindly read the text more carefully
>> >Kavousd
>> >
>> >Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 09:32, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','el at lisse.NA');>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thank you,
>> >>
>> >> in short that means, there will be no Community Mechanism.
>> >>
>> >> el
>> >>
>> >>> On 2015-09-26 09:13 , Jordan Carter wrote:
>> >>> here is the PDF of Kavouss' suggestion.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jordan
>> >> [...]
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