[CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Kavouss alternative proposal

Aikman-Scalese, Anne AAikman at lrrlaw.com
Mon Sep 28 19:01:57 UTC 2015


Agree 100% Mike  - very important points as to process.
Anne

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-----Original Message-----
From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Chartier, Mike S
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 10:44 AM
To: Paul Rosenzweig; 'James Gannon'; 'Kavouss Arasteh'; 'Dr Eberhard W Lisse'
Cc: 'Lisse Eberhard'; 'Accountability Cross Community'
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Kavouss alternative proposal

It might be the case that a non-membership model could be created that was acceptable and achieve consensus. However there is a fundamental difference in CA law between a member and a no-member org, so it's a major decision.

The first draft CCWG proposal, sent for public consultation, proposed to change ICANN to a membership model.
The "interim" model emerging out of BA was a potential, or "springing" membership model.
The second CCWG proposal developed in Paris, and sent for a second public consultation was a membership model.
In both consultations, while there were many questions, there was also general support for a membership model.

This is not to say that the proposal eventually sent to the NTIA has to be a membership model, but there would seem to be a process problem in submitting a proposal to NTIA that was not a membership model, but was not vetted to the same extent that the first two proposals were.

-----Original Message-----
From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Paul Rosenzweig
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Kavouss alternative proposal

Sometimes you should "just say no."

The community membership model is the core of what the community needs to actually enforce its interests ...

Paul

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-----Original Message-----
From: James Gannon [mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net]
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:46 PM
To: Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>; Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA>
Cc: Lisse Eberhard <directors at omadhina.net>; Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Kavouss alternative proposal

But it means we would not have a membership model no?, which would be a huge change.

-James





On 26/09/2015 17:43, "accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org on behalf of Kavouss Arasteh" <accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
on behalf of kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com> wrote:

>Dear All
>There is community mechanism through standing Panel Pls  kindly read
>the text more carefully Kavousd
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 26 Sep 2015, at 09:32, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> in short that means, there will be no Community Mechanism.
>>
>> el
>>
>>> On 2015-09-26 09:13 , Jordan Carter wrote:
>>> here is the PDF of Kavouss' suggestion.
>>>
>>> Jordan
>> [...]
>>
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