[CCWG-ACCT] Cruz / NTIA: Time to Get Expert Advice

[Greg Shatan]

We should also draw on all the expertise we have within this group on
"government relations," both US and internationally.  On the US side, a
number of our members and participants have considerable experience with
and wisdom on the ways of Washington.

It is in no way a slight to the international stage to recognize that the
USG has a unique relationship to the transition.

Greg

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:09 AM, <Jorge.Cancio at bakom.admin.ch> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I trust that any competent political advisor would also consider from an
> objective point of view the international implications at stake.
>
> best regards
>
> Jorge Cancio
>
> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>
> > Am 29.09.2015 um 17:07 schrieb Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net>:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I just want to clarify that my request for professional political advice
> is in no way caused by a desire to constrain or in any way affect our
> policy preferences. In fact, quite the opposite. Political analysis has
> already been introduced into our discussion by Ira in his Los Angeles
> address and by many others who have opined what the NTIA may or may not
> accept. I sense these concerns may already be affecting our policy
> direction, or at least there is a desire by some that they do. I'd like to
> hear from professionals who have an explicit duty to the CCWG in these
> matters, rather than our sources to date. I should note that Cam Kerry is a
> former head of the Department of Commerce. The expertise and professional
> judgement  of someone with his experience and ties is certainly something I
> believe would be of great value as we chart our path forward.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 29, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Malcolm Hutty <malcolm at linx.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 29/09/2015 14:13, Arun Sukumar wrote:
> >>> Agree fully with Avri, and Ed's suggestion. It is important to feel the
> >>> pulse of the hill, but that need not be the CCWG's driving
> consideration.
> >>>
> >>> It is commendable that this group has not lost its bearings on
> >>> accountability principles despite the noise surrounding the proposal's
> >>> "acceptability" to the NTIA/USG.
> >>>
> >>> What's acceptable or who's electable are pretty subjective notions, as
> >>> the rest of the world is finding out from this US prez campaign :)
> >>
> >> I agree with Arun and others.
> >>
> >> Getting professional public affairs advice on likely reactions to our
> >> proposal (and to the Board's) certainly sounds like a good idea. But we
> >> should be careful not to mislead ourselves with it.
> >>
> >> What are we actually planning to ask? Would Congress support our
> >> proposal? Would they prefer it? Would they dislike it sufficiently to
> >> pass legislation to block it?
> >>
> >> These are very different questions to each other.
> >>
> >> Moreover, any advice, no matter how well informed, is only a guess based
> >> on the current situation. That naturally devalues our ability (or
> >> others' ability) to influence the outcome. So if we were to effectively
> >> outsource our decision-making to professional political advice of what
> >> is "achievable", that wouldn't be only an improper dereliction of duty,
> >> it would also be foolish.
> >>
> >> For this reason, while I am happy for us to go ahead with this project,
> >> I think we should concentrate less on trying to second-guess others and
> >> more on winning support for our own work.
> >>
> >> Kieren's recent suggestion is an excellent starting point for a
> >> checklist, and it isn't even entirely new: I believe Thomas has already
> >> made a start on a more legible explanation of our proposal.
> >>
> >> This is where we should focus our efforts: on building support for our
> >> proposal, not on assembling excuses for abandoning it.
> >>
> >> --
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