[CCWG-ACCT] [community-finance] IANA Stewardship Transition - Project Expenses - FY16 Q3 update

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Tue Aug 16 13:43:47 UTC 2016


To these important posers I may add, is ICANN considering making it
clear to the vendors at the contracting stage itself that it has strong
transparency obligations and would be bound by them (as governments
typically do, which is why this discussion went into whether ICANN's
functions are of a 'public governance' nature). parminder


On Monday 15 August 2016 08:38 PM, Schaefer, Brett wrote:
>
> Kavouss,
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>  
>
> Thank you for re-raising this issue, which appears to have been lost.
>
>  
>
> Xavier, I also asked for additional clarifications that, I think, need
> to be answered to inform he work of the Transparency Working Group in
> WS2. Specifically, in your response, you said that “ICANN enters into
> confidentiality obligations as a result of bilateral negotiations with
> vendors” and that they prevent ICANN from publicly disclosing further
> details than those provided in your e-mail.  
>
>  
>
>   * Would this confidentiality obligation prevent disclosure through
>     the DIDP process?
>
>  
>
>   * Would this confidentiality obligation prevent individual Directors
>     from obtaining this information through their Right of Inspection?
>
>  
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>   * Would this confidentiality obligation prevent an individual
>     Decisional Participant from obtaining this information if they
>     requested it under their Right of Inspection of  ICANN accounting
>     books and records pursuant to the provisions of Section 6333 of
>     the CCC?
>
>  
>
>   * Would this confidentiality obligation prevent the Empowered
>     Community from obtaining the information through its right to
>     launch a third-party, independent investigation if three
>     Decisional Participants determine that there is a credible
>     allegation that ICANN has committed fraud or that there has been a
>     gross mismanagement of ICANN’s resources?  
>
>  
>
> Finally, I did not see where you clarified whether ICANN engaged
> vendors to perform similar tasks – “lobbying” or
> educational/engagement – that may not have been captured by the
> Congressional database, such as at the state level in the U.S.
> (particularly California), the U.S. Executive Branch, or in non-US
> countries.  
>
>  
>
> Best,
>
>  
>
> Brett
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>  
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>  
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> *From:*accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Kavouss Arasteh
> *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2016 10:36 AM
> *To:* Xavier J. Calvez
> *Cc:* accountability-cross-community at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT] [community-finance] IANA Stewardship
> Transition - Project Expenses - FY16 Q3 update
>
>  
>
> Dear Xavier
>
> I have sent you the following question to which I have not received
> any reply
>
> Perhaps you have been very busy and overlooked my questions
>
> I still awaiting for clarifications
>
> Regards
>
> KAVOUSS
>
> Copy of questions raised many weeks ago
>
> Dear Xavier
>
> Thank you for all info.
>
> Pls clarify the following
>
> 1.What is prfessional advice :;this advice is given to whom ,on what
> subject and why is needed
>
> 2. what is lobbing here. who lobbies for whom and on what and the need
> for such lobbies
>
> 3 Who checks and confirm  the legal costs by three legal entities, who
> decide that there was a need for such legal advice and who checks and
> control ther tme spent..Many of these advice were repeatation of
> previous adfvices and just cut and p[aste from one advice to others
> .Please review all advices given from the begining of 2015 till now
>
> We neeed all these detailed info .
>
> Regards
>
> Kavouss
>
>  
>
> 2016-08-15 16:25 GMT+02:00 avri doria <avri at apc.org
> <mailto:avri at apc.org>>:
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>
>
> On 15-Aug-16 06:43, parminder wrote:
> > I just said that an Antigua based betting company will be ill-advised
> > to try to take up a closed gTLD in its name and conduct its business
> > under it, because it is liable to be seized whenever US authorities
> > want to do so (by their jurisdiction control over ICANN) . Same is
> > true of a drug company, say from India, planning global e-com trade of
> > generic drugs. It will also be ill-advised to risk a closed gTLD in
> > its name to do such global business, for the same reason.
>
> I thought that this has to do with the jurisdiction of the registry and
> the rregistrar itself.  And while it may cause concern because there are
> not as many registries and registrars in non US jurisdictions, there are
> some and could be more in time. It may also mean that greater efforts
> should be taken to inform people of the jurisdiction their registration
> is under and whose laws they are subject to, but I do not see how the
> location of ICANN main office or place of incorproation affects this
> issue.
>
> In any case aren't the issues relatiing to the jurisdiction of
> registries and registrars  among the ones being discussed in the Juris
> sub group?
>
> But the conversation has been quite far ranging so could well be missing
> the point of the disagreement.
>
> avri
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