[CCWG-ACCT] Inputs requested - Budget of the IANA Stewardship Transition

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Fri Feb 5 23:46:50 UTC 2016


Please speak for yourself.

Alan

At 05/02/2016 04:41 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
>Cost per participant is negligible.
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>On 5 Feb 2016, at 22:57, Seun Ojedeji 
><<mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>+1 FWIW, I expect that the legal costs would 
>>reduce significantly. Aside ICANN expense, I 
>>expect the overall cost of participation for 
>>each volunteer would reduce since schedules 
>>will be more flexible. I can imagine some 
>>volunteers in this process has made this a 
>>priority that may have cost them one way or the other.
>>
>>Cheers!
>>On 5 Feb 2016 2:59 p.m., "Jonathan Zuck" 
>><<mailto:JZuck at actonline.org>JZuck at actonline.org> wrote:
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>>Agreed. One budget positive aspect of WS2 is 
>>that it is perhaps more policy driven and less 
>>structural as well as more dispersed and more easily amortized.
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>>Jonathan Zuck
>>President
>>ACT: The App Association
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>>On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 5:53 AM -0800, "Drazek, 
>>Keith" <<mailto:kdrazek at verisign.com>kdrazek at verisign.com> wrote:
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>>Hi Mathieu,
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>>Thanks for forwarding this information. I 
>>support the approach you have outlined.
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>>I would add, however, that we will also need to 
>>help ICANN more accurately predict workload and 
>>associated expenses for WS-2, so future budget 
>>planning can be more accurate. Speaking 
>>personally, I believe the Board’s concerns 
>>around the “impact of project cost on 
>>ICANN’s reserves” are legitimate. We should 
>>help ICANN’s finance department better 
>>understand the future WS2 work plan to help 
>>ICANN allocate (or re-allocate) funds and 
>>hopefully avoid future overages and having to draw on reserves.
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>>Regards,
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>>Keith
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>>From: 
>><mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org 
>>[mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] 
>>On Behalf Of Mathieu Weill
>>Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 4:16 AM
>>To: 'CCWG-Accountability'
>>Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Inputs requested - Budget 
>>of the IANA Stewardship Transition
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>>Dear colleagues,
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>>This note to report that the co chairs were 
>>invited to participate to a Board Finance 
>>Committee meeting to discuss the costs of the 
>>IANA Stewardship Transition project (overall, 
>>not only our group). You can find the notes from the call attached.
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>>A follow up meeting is planned for Tuesday, 
>>February 9th. The purpose of the call is the following (quoting the invite):
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>>The Board Chair and members of the Board 
>>Finance Committee (BFC) would like to request a 
>>call with the Chairs of the SO/AC Chartering 
>>Organizations and CCWG/CWG co-chairs to seek 
>>their help and collaboration on how to address 
>>key concerns regarding the escalating costs of 
>>the current phase of work of the USG IANA 
>>Stewardship Transition and Accountability WS1 
>>(thereafter referred to in this document as THE 
>>PROJECT) as well as Implementation work as specified in the CWG Proposal.
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>>In advance of this call, we would like to hear 
>>your feedbacks regarding our proposed contribution to this matter.
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>>We believe we could recognize  :
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>>- the value of the advice we are receiving from 
>>our two legal firms, which is instrumental to our progress
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>>- the appreciation from our group of the support we are getting from staff
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>>- the legitimate concerns from the Board 
>>regarding the impact of the project costs on Icann's financial reserves
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>>- the massive effort undertaken by Icann to 
>>support the IANA Stewardship Transition process
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>>- that there are limited costs that can be 
>>attributed to the groups (groups are not 
>>responsible for lobbying costs; personnel costs 
>>for example), and even some of those costs 
>>directly linked to the group are out of the 
>>control of the groups ( how many public 
>>comments received (costs to analyze them etc)).
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>>We would also suggest to keep our current 
>>processes in place as they are until Marrakech, 
>>while renewing our group's commitment to act in 
>>a financially responsible manner.
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>>We could also offer to include in our Marrakech 
>>deliberations a discussion to present to the 
>>Board a request for additional funding, to 
>>support Bylaw Drafting and Implementation of 
>>WS1 on the one side, and to support WS2 on the 
>>other side. This type of request is consistent 
>>with our Charter, which states :
>>
>>In addition to the advisors selected by the 
>>PEG, the CCWG-Accountability may also identify 
>>additional advisors or experts to contribute to 
>>its deliberations in a similar manner as the 
>>Advisors selected by the PEG. Should additional 
>>costs be involved in obtaining input from 
>>additional advisors or experts, prior approval 
>>must be obtained from ICANN. Such a request for 
>>approval should at a minimum include the 
>>rationale for selecting additional advisors or 
>>experts as well as expected costs.
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>>We believe it would also be reasonable if 
>>approval of such funds were to be provided in 
>>Tranches, so that at the end of each period of, 
>>for example, 3 months, our group would have to 
>>report on progress and, when appropriate, renew 
>>its request or present a new one.
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>>Thank you for sharing your views on list on 
>>this. We look forward to your contributions.
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>>
>>Thomas, Leon & Mathieu
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>>Co-chairs
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