[CCWG-ACCT] Poll results

Kavouss Arasteh kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
Tue Feb 23 18:57:18 UTC 2016


Milton, There is no games and there are no players .People expressing their
views, either we agree or we disagree..The results reflects what has
happened.
Those people saying that half of the Board are not elected, should kindly
consider that it is not CCWG who decides about the Board members nominated
by NOMCOM
We are not mandated to take any action in this regard.
NOMCOM with its eight Board's memebrs are part of Bylaws in force. It is
therefore  totally inappropriate to make such statement
Our mandate is clear and discussion on the Members not elected is totally
outside of our terms of refernce.
Regards
Kavouss

2016-02-23 19:50 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>:

> Dear All,
> Once again I voted in Poll 2 .Please include my name there.
> Thomas has confirmed that today.
> Awiting for correction pls
> Regards
> Kavouss
>
> 2016-02-23 19:36 GMT+01:00 Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu>:
>
>> I think both sides are playing games with the classification of
>> participants in the straw poll, and with spinning the results.
>> Let's stop
>>
>> The results are fairly obvious.
>>
>> a) there is not a true consensus; we are divided but numerically a
>> preponderance supports the change
>> b) the board, GAC and ALAC want the threshold for board removal to be
>> higher when GAC advice is involved.
>> c) civil society / noncommercial almost unanimously do not support the
>> board/GAC/ALAC position
>> d) business interests support removal of the lower threshold, but not so
>> much on the merits but because they fear an obstacle to the transition.
>> e) others (e.g. ccTLDs) are divided
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>> > [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of
>> > Roelof Meijer
>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 9:08 AM
>> > To: avri at acm.org; accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>> > Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Poll results
>> >
>> > Thanks for that Avri, I cannot agree more
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Roelof
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 23-02-16 13:30, "accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org on
>> > behalf of Avri Doria" <accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>> > on behalf of avri at acm.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >Hi,
>> > >
>> > >I do not object to them having been included.
>> > >
>> > >We are trying to short circuit the negotiation cycle.  To do that we
>> > >are being inclusive and should be grateful for the participation of all
>> > >who could derail the process.  I see this as a good thing.
>> > >
>> > >I find this new formalism to be a bit bizarre.  Once we had members
>> > >they were too elite.  So we added participants. Now only formally
>> > >listed participants count?  This is about the community and the best
>> > >consensus we find, not about status quo notions of membership.
>> > >
>> > >avri
>> > >
>> > >On 23-Feb-16 13:41, Edward Morris wrote:
>> > >> Hello,
>> > >>
>> > >> I object to the inclusion in the tally of votes those individuals who
>> > >>are neither Appointed Members nor Participants of the CCWG on
>> > >>Enhancing Accountability. The full roster of Participants are listed
>> > >> here:
>> > >>https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=50823968
>> > >>.
>> > >>
>> > >> The participation of staff, other than liaisons, is particularly
>> > >> troublesome. The number of Board members participating in a voting
>> > >> capacity in this poll despite not being a member, liaison or
>> > >> participant of the group is also a problem. Certainly the Board does
>> > >> not wish to leave itself open to charges of packing the meeting so it
>> > >> would achieve it's desired outcome despite the desires of regularly
>> > >> and properly participating members of the community.
>> > >>
>> > >> The barrier to becoming a CCWG participant is admirably low. The
>> > >> process should be respected. I would request all tallies be redone to
>> > >> reflect only the votes who have properly joined the CCWG as a Member,
>> > >> Participant or Liaison.
>> > >>
>> > >> Respectfully,
>> > >>
>> > >> Edward Morris
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >> ---
>> > >> *From*: "Grace Abuhamad" <grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
>> > >> *Sent*: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 10:29 AM
>> > >> *To*: "Accountability Cross Community"
>> > >> <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>> > >> *Subject*: [CCWG-ACCT] Poll results
>> > >>
>> > >> Dear all,
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> To ensure full transparency around the polling, the staff have
>> > >> reviewed the recording for the call and crosschecked the results. The
>> > >> Adobe Connect recording is available here for your viewing as well:
>> > >> https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p2ner13u4kd/.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Please note that the instructions regarding participation in the
>> > >> polls were as follows:
>> > >>
>> > >> ·      Anyone on the call was invited to participate in the poll
>> > >> (members & participants).
>> > >>
>> > >> ·      To participate, participants in the Adobe Connect room used
>> > >> either a red or green tick to respond to the poll question.
>> > >>
>> > >> ·      Those on audio-only could express their position over the
>> phone.
>> > >>
>> > >> ·      After the polls, analysis would be conducted to assess
>> > >> participation from CCWG members (for the purposes of these results,
>> > >> the members¹ names are in bold font).
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> The Chairs conducted four polls in a group that varied between 85-90
>> > >> participants. The text used as the basis for the polls is Paragraph
>> > >> 72 of the CCWG report (see attached slide for the text as well as the
>> > >> 2^nd bullet highlighted in red). The first two poll questions were
>> > >> based on objections and the second two poll questions were based on
>> > >> expressions of support.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> *Summary of results: *
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ·      11 objections to removing the 2^nd bullet in Paragraph 72 (in
>> > >> red on the slide)
>> > >>
>> > >> o   (2 CCWG member objections)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ·      27 objections to sending the report forward as it is
>> currently,
>> > >> with the full text in Paragraph 72
>> > >>
>> > >> o   (8 CCWG member objections, including all ALAC members)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ·      36 support removing the language in the 2^nd bullet in
>> > >> Paragraph 72 (in red on the slide)
>> > >>
>> > >> o   (10 CCWG members supporting)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ·      14 support sending the report forward as it is currently, with
>> > >> the full text in Paragraph 72
>> > >>
>> > >> o   (2 CCWG members supporting)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> *Detailed results: *
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> *Poll #1*­ Who objects to removing the 2^nd bullet in Paragraph 72
>> > >> (in red on the slide), (³If the IRP is not available to challenge the
>> > >> Board action in question²)?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> 1.    Brett Schaefer (NCSG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 2.    Edward Morris (NCSG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 3.    Farzaneh Badii (NCSG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 4.    James Gannon (NCSG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 5.    Malcolm Hutty (ISPCP ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 6.    Milton Mueller (NCSG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 7.    Paul Rosenzweig (NCSG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 8.    *Robin Gross*(NCSG ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 9.    Stephen Deerhake (ccNSO ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 10.Tatiana Tropina (NCSG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 11.*Eberhard Lisse*(ccNSO ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> *Poll #2*­ Who objects to sending the report forward (to Chartering
>> > >> Organizations) as it is currently, (i.e. the 19 February version with
>> > >> the full text in Paragraph 72)?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> 1.    *Alan Greenberg*(ALAC ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 2.    Asha Hemrajani (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 3.    Cherine Chalaby (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 4.    *Cheryl Langdon-Orr*(ALAC ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 5.    Chris Disspain (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 6.    David McAuley (GNSO ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 7.    Fadi Chehade (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 8.    George Sadowsky (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 9.    Jorge Cancio (GAC ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 10.*Julia Wolman*(GAC ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 11.Keith Drazek (RySG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 12.*Leon Sanchez*(ALAC ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 13.Lito Ibarra (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 14.Louisewies Van del Laan (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 15.Markus Kummer (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 16.*Olga Cavalli*(GAC ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 17.Olivier Crepin-Leblond (ALAC ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 18.Pedro da Silva (GAC ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 19.Rafael Perez Galindo (GAC ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 20.Rinalia Abdul Rahim (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 21.*Roelof Meijer*(ccNSO ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 22.Ron da Silva (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 23.Samantha Eisner (ICANN Staff Liaison)
>> > >>
>> > >> 24.Seun Ojedeji (ALAC ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 25.Steve Crocker (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 26.*Sebastien Bachollet*(ALAC ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 27.Stephen Deerhake (ccNSO ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 28.Tarek Kamel (ICANN Staff ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 29.*Tijani Ben Jemaa*(ALAC ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> *Poll #3*­ Who supports removing the language in the 2^nd bullet in
>> > >> Paragraph 72 (in red on the slide), (³If the IRP is not available to
>> > >> challenge the Board action in question²)?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> 1.    *Alan**Greenberg* (ALAC ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 2.    Annaliese Williams (GAC ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 3.    Asha Hemrajani (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 4.    Avri Doria (NCSG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 5.    Cherine Chalaby (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 6.    *Cheryl Langdon-Orr*(ALAC ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 7.    Chris Disspain (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 8.    David McAuley (GNSO ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 9.    Fadi Chehade (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 10.Finn Petersen (GAC ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 11.George Sadowsky (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 12.Greg Shatan (IPC ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 13.*James Bladel*(RrSG ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 14.*Julia**Wolman* (GAC ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 15.Kavouss Arasteh (GAC ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 16.Keith Drazek (RySG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 17.*Leon**Sanchez* (ALAC ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 18.Lito Ibarra (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 19.Louisewies Van del Laan (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 20.Mark Carvell (GAC ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 21.Markus Kummer (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 22.Mary Uduma (ccNSO ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 23.Niels Ten Oever (Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 30.*Olga**Cavalli* (GAC ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 24.Olivier Crepin-Leblond (ALAC ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 25.Paul Szyndler (ccNSO ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 26.Pedro da Silva (GAC ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 31.Rafael Perez Galindo (GAC ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 27.Rinalia Abdul Rahim (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 28.*Roelof**Meijer* (ccNSO ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 29.Ron da Silva (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 30.Sabine Meyer (GAC ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 31.Seun Ojedeji (ALAC ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 32.Steve Crocker (ICANN Board ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 33.*Steve DelBianco*(CSG ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 34.*Sebastien**Bachollet* (ALAC ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 35.Tarek Kamel (ICANN Staff)
>> > >>
>> > >> 36.*Tijani**Ben Jemaa* (ALAC ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> *Poll #4*­ Who supports sending the report to Chartering
>> > >> Organizations as it is currently, (i.e. the 19 February version with
>> > >> the full text in Paragraph 72)?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> 1.    Aarti Bhavana (NCSG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 2.    Brett Schaefer (NCSG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 3.    Edward Morris (NCSG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 4.    Farzaneh Badii (NCSG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 5.    James Gannon (NCSG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 6.    *Jordan Carter*(ccNSO ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 7.    Martin Boyle (ccNSO ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 8.    Matthew Shears (NCSG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 9.    Malcolm Hutty (ISPCP ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 10.Milton Mueller (NCSG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 11.Paul Rosenzweig (NCSG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 12.*Robin**Gross* (NCSG ­ Member)
>> > >>
>> > >> 13.Stephen Deerhake (ccNSO ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >> 14.Tatiana Tropina (NCSG ­ Participant)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
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