[CCWG-ACCT] Rec 2 - escalation process - second reading draft

[Kavouss Arasteh]

Dear Mathieu,
I did send you several corrections and comments for corrections between
08-21 January 2016.
Have you implemented these correcetions and comments
KAVOUSS

2016-01-15 4:32 GMT+01:00 Jordan Carter <jordan at internetnz.net.nz>:

> hi all, hi Seun, some comments in line below:
>
> On 13 January 2016 at 21:08, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the share, a few comments inline,
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 7:40 AM, Jordan Carter <jordan at internetnz.net.nz>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>>
>>> 7 days: Time for a second/third SO/AC to sign on for the petition
>>>
>>>
>>> [if no valid petition, lapses]
>>>
>>
>> SO: May be good to put a limit on number of restart of this phase?
>> especially if its still from the same initial petitioning SO/AC and on the
>> same subject.
>>
>
> I am not sure we need this. For the bylaws block or the Budget/strat plan
> powers, if the power isn't successfully petitioned for in the time frame,
> then there isn't the possibility of a further petition. For the fundamental
> bylaws approval this is N/A. We have built in that if a power to recall a
> director lapses it can't be used again in that director's term. And
> repeated rounds of effort to recall the whole ICANN Board seem unlikely.
>
>
>> Other comments:
>> - Considering that bylaw changes can only be proposed by the board, i
>> think its fine to lower to 3 support of SO/AC
>>
> -  3 support to remove nomcom appointees seem to be quite low as i think
>> it should be 4 (nomcom appointees are technically selected by the whole
>> community)
>> - Removal of entire board still reflects as 4, while that is only a
>> compromise as it ought to be unanimous; Its unthinkable that every SO/AC
>> would not be made to commit to whatever implications that emerge from
>> spilling the board.
>>
>
> We have been very clear that none of the powers require unanimity, and
> re-considering that decision is not likely to be something the CCWG as a
> whole would be looking to do at this point.  Aside from saying that, I
> don't think the thresholds were a topic at the meeting or of my note, so I
> won't comment further.
>
>
>>
>>
>>> +
>>>
>>> 21 days: Time within which Community Forum must be organised
>>> {note - within 7 days of valid petition, written rationale must be
>>> circulated - this does not go "on top of" the 21 days for the Forum, it is
>>> within it.}
>>>
>>
>> SO: I had thought the rationale would come together with the petition, is
>> there a reason for giving another 7 days for the rationale after petition
>> is received?
>>
>
> I made the fewest possible changes, and wondered about this myself, but
> don't think it matters much either way.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> +
>>>
>>> 21 days: Time within which SOs and ACs must decide whether to exercise
>>> the power.
>>>
>>
>> SO: Again it will be good to be sure this is a hard deadline (not
>> expendable) as we have done so extension in this current process. Perhaps a
>> note relating to that should be indicated.
>>
>
> I think the language in the proposal is clear that these are timeframes
> that can't be changed with any huge ease. If it isn't clear, we will just
> all have to be vigilant about making sure that is properly reflected in
> implementation.
>
> best
> Jordan
>
>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>>
>>> So the longest possible time is 70 days.
>>>
>>> There's included an ability by the SO or ACs petitioning to extent to
>>> the next in-person meeting, EXCEPT (a new exception) where it's about the
>>> Budget power - we cannot put the budgets on hold for months, in my view.....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> Jordan
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>
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>>
>> Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action!
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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>
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