[CCWG-ACCT] Lawyers' High Level Review: Annexes 1, 8, 9, 10, 11

Nigel Roberts nigel at channelisles.net
Mon Jan 25 01:10:17 UTC 2016


Paul is right to be concerned.

'duly taken in to account' means 'followed'.



On 24/01/16 21:32, Greg Shatan wrote:
> Paul,
>
> I was halfway through writing an email that said exactly that.
>
> This may be due to the lawyers re-interpreting "duly taken into account"
> in a way that I don't agree with and which I think is incorrect.  We
> have used the term many times in discussing how we deal with public
> comments, and I have taken our meaning to be "we will consider it and
> give it our full attention, but without any presumption that we will
> adopt it."  The additional language suggested by the lawyers as a
> "clarification" would actually be a substantial change, along the lines
> that you highlight.  I would also note that this phrase has been in the
> Bylaws for many year without any ambiguity noted until now.
>
> Whatever the genesis of this problem, we need to reverse this creeping
> presumption.
>
>
> Greg
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Paul Rosenzweig
> <paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com
> <mailto:paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com>> wrote:
>
>     Is anyone else concerned about the commentary to Annex 11.  As I
>     read our lawyer’s advice, we are now in the position of putting into
>     place a presumption that the Board will not act inconsistent with
>     GAC advice – which to me is more binding that making sure that the
>     advice is duly taken into account.  The latter implies that it may
>     be taken account of and then diverged from, while the former
>     suggests not.  I am not questioning the lawyer’s conclusions.
>     Rather I am suggesting that we have, mistakenly, created a situation
>     where government influence is definitely increased.  I cannot
>     support that.  More to the point I do not see how the NTIA will
>     approve it ….____
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>     *From:*Gregory, Holly [mailto:holly.gregory at sidley.com
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>     *Subject:* [CCWG-ACCT] Lawyers' High Level Review: Annexes 1, 8, 9,
>     10, 11____
>
>     __ __
>
>     __ __
>
>     __ __
>
>     Dear CCWG ACCT Co-Chairs, Members, Participants and ICANN Staff, ____
>
>     __ __
>
>     We are writing to raise with you the following issues that we
>     identified in our high-level review of the above- referenced
>     Annexes:____
>
>     __ __
>
>     *_Annex 1 (GAC as Decisional Participant)_*:  We did not have any
>     high-level comments on this Annex.____
>
>     *______*
>
>     *_Annex 8 (Reconsideration)_*:  With respect to the timing
>     requirements discussed in Paragraph 25 and elsewhere in the Annex,
>     there appears to be some inconsistency:  If the Board Governance
>     Committee (BGC) takes its full 90 days to make a recommendation
>     after receiving the request,  the Board would not  meet its 60 day
>     timeline, and it would be tight for it to meet the 120 day time line
>     (particularly if the requestor files a rebuttal to the BGC’s
>     recommendation within 15 days of receipt). /We recommend that these
>     time frames be re-considered to remove the inconsistency, for
>     example by deleting the language relating to Board action within 60
>     days and, if necessary, providing the Board with additional time to
>     consider the BGC recommendations/.____
>
>     __ __
>
>     *_Annex 9 (AOC Reviews)_*: /We recommend that consideration be given
>     to further clarifying the Review Team provision in Paragraph 54 (1)
>     to specify the type of “diversity” desired (geographic or otherwise)
>     for Review Team members and (2) to state whether, in determining the
>     composition of the members of the Review Teams they select, the
>     group of chairs can solicit additional nominees or appoint less than
>     21 members to avoid potential overrepresentation of particular ACs
>     or SOs if some nominate less than 3 members./ ____
>
>     __ __
>
>     *_Annex 10 (SO/AC Accountability)_*:  We did not have any high-level
>     comments on this Annex. ____
>
>     *______*
>
>     *_Annex 11 (GAC Advice)_*: ____
>
>     __ __
>
>     We were asked to review the current Bylaws provision addressing GAC
>     advice and determine whether the ambiguities we identified in our
>     review of the proposed revisions to this provision are new or stem
>     from ambiguities under the current Bylaws text. We have determined
>     that there are ambiguities under the current Bylaws text, which
>     provides as follows:____
>
>     *ICANN Bylaws Article XI, Section 2.1.j.*The advice of the
>     Governmental Advisory Committee on public policy matters shall be
>     /duly taken into account/, both in the formulation and adoption of
>     policies. In the event that the ICANN Board determines to take an
>     action that is not consistent with the Governmental Advisory
>     Committee advice, it shall so inform the Committee and state the
>     reasons why it decided not to follow that advice. The Governmental
>     Advisory Committee and the ICANN Board will then try, in good faith
>     and in a timely and efficient manner, to find a mutually acceptable
>     solution.____
>
>     __ __
>
>     The phrase “duly taken into account” is ambiguous, but reading it
>     together with the next sentence, which requires that the Board
>     follow a specific procedure before taking actions inconsistent with
>     GAC advice, we believe the best interpretation of this phrase is to
>     mean “do not act inconsistently with.”  Based on this
>     interpretation, /we recommend the following clarification
>     (underlined) to the first sentence of this Bylaws provision:  “The
>     advice of the Gov//ernmental Advisory Committee on public policy
>     matters shall be duly taken into account, both in the formulation
>     and adoption of policies_, and**ICANN shall not act inconsistently
>     with that advice except as otherwise provided in this paragraph_/.” ____
>
>     __ __
>
>     We also note that there is no meaningful legal distinction between
>       voting and determining to take an action, as some commenters have
>     suggested.  The only way the Board can legally determine or decide
>     anything under California law is by voting. ____
>
>     __ __
>
>     The proposed addition to the current Bylaws text is underlined
>     below:____
>
>     __ __
>
>     *ICANN Bylaws Article XI, Section 2.1.j.*The advice of the
>     Governmental Advisory Committee on public policy matters shall be
>     duly taken into account, both in the formulation and adoption of
>     policies. In the event that the ICANN Board determines to take an
>     action that is not consistent with the Governmental Advisory
>     Committee advice, it shall so inform the Committee and state the
>     reasons why it decided not to follow that advice. _Any Governmental
>     Advisory Committee advice approved by a full Governmental Advisory
>     Committee consensus, understood to mean the practice of adopting
>     decisions by general agreement in the absence of any formal
>     objection, may only be rejected by a vote of 2/3 of the Board,
>     and_ the Governmental Advisory Committee and the ICANN Board will
>     then try, in good faith and in a timely and efficient manner, to
>     find a mutually acceptable solution.____
>
>     __ __
>
>     Based on our interpretation of the current Bylaws text, described
>     above, we believe this proposed provision results in the following
>     process:____
>
>     __1.__If GAC provides advice (whether by a full GAC consensus or a
>     lesser approval threshold), the ICANN Board must “duly take[] into
>     account” that advice -- i.e., ICANN must not act inconsistently with
>     that advice, unless #2 and/or #3 below apply. ____
>
>     __2.__If GAC provides advice (whether by a full GAC consensus or a
>     lesser approval threshold), and the ICANN Board decides  to take an
>     action inconsistent with that advice, the ICANN Board must first
>     give GAC notice and provide a rationale. ____
>
>     __·__In addition, f the GAC  advice was by a full GAC consensus, the
>     ICANN Board may decide to  take an action inconsistent with that
>     advice only by a vote of 2/3 of the ICANN Board. If that 2/3
>     threshold is reached, GAC and ICANN must then try in good faith to
>     find a mutually acceptable solution.  If the 2/3 threshold is not
>     reached, ICANN is required to act consistently with the consensus
>     GAC advice. ____
>
>     /We recommend that consideration be given to further clarifying this
>     process, and we agree with commenters who have concluded that the
>     proposed provision does not impose an affirmative obligation upon
>     ICANN’s Board to vote on GAC consensus advice every time that advice
>     is provided/. ____
>
>     We note that additional Bylaws language is being proposed to clarify
>     that, in any case, the Board needs to act in compliance with the
>     ICANN Bylaws.  Thus, if the Board were to determine that following
>     GAC advice would result in non-compliance with the Bylaws, the Board
>     should be able to reject the advice (with a majority or two-thirds
>     vote, depending on whether the GAC advice was consensus advice) and
>     explain its position to GAC. ____
>
>     Please let us know if we can assist in any way with your further
>     consideration of these issues.____
>
>     __ __
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>     Kind regards,____
>
>     Holly and Rosemary____
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>     Partner and Co-Chair
>     Global Corporate Governance & Executive Compensation Practice
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