[CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Human Rights Transition Provision: Bylaws Section 27.3(a)
Kavouss Arasteh
kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
Mon May 2 08:59:43 UTC 2016
Dear All,
Oncde again
1. we need to make direct and explicit refrence to the need the FOI to be
approved, among others, by chartering organization
2. I am against the use of the twin words" unless and until"
one is sufficient ,usually the term "until "is used in all legal terms that
I have seen since 1971.
3. I am against the use of the term " governmental authority " in the ICANN
core values/mission
4. I am against to give a blanket agreement for the text which yet to be
drafted
Regards
Kavouss
Regards
Kavouss
2016-05-02 10:48 GMT+02:00 Niels ten Oever <lists at nielstenoever.net>:
> Dear Kavouss,
>
> Am not arguiung with you about that point. I think what Greg, me and
> several others have argued is that bylaw text is consistent (except for
> 'or unless'). Could you please elaborate why you think it is not?
>
> Best,
>
> Niels
>
> On 05/02/2016 10:46 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
> > Dear All,
> > The drafted bylaws MUST be consistent word by word to the text of the
> > Supplemental CCWG Proposal .Example text on Human Rights
> > Regards
> > Kavouss
> >
> > 2016-05-02 10:11 GMT+02:00 Niels ten Oever <lists at nielstenoever.net
> > <mailto:lists at nielstenoever.net>>:
> >
> > Dear Tijani and Kavouss,
> >
> > Could you please indicate where the proposed text is not consistent
> with
> > the report? Concrete references would be helpful for me to better
> > understand your point.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Niels
> >
> >
> >
> > On 05/02/2016 09:38 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
> > > Tijani +1
> > > I fully agree with Tijani
> > > People misuse the opportunity to make modifications that were not
> agreed
> > > during the lkast 16 months
> > > NO CHANGE NO MODIFICATIONS.
> > > During the WSIS I WILL tell everybody that there is no supervision
> nor
> > > control on what we have agreed and the people will make whatever
> change
> > > they wish without the agreements of the others
> > >
> > > KAVOUSS
> > >
> > > 2016-05-02 8:14 GMT+02:00 Tijani BEN JEMAA <
> tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>
> > > <mailto:tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn
> > <mailto:tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>>>:
> > >
> > > Mathieu and all,
> > >
> > > The modification proposed doesn’t reflect the CCWG last
> proposal
> > > approved by the chartering organization. I don’t think we are
> > > allowed to write bylaws that are not the exact interpretation
> of the
> > > approved document that had the CCWG consensus and the charting
> > > organizations ratification.
> > >
> > >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > *Tijani BEN JEMAA*
> > > Executive Director
> > > Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*)
> > > Phone: +216 98 330 114
> > > +216 52 385 114
> > >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >> Le 2 mai 2016 à 04:23, Kavouss Arasteh <
> kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com <mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
> > >> <mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
> > <mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>>> a écrit :
> > >>
> > >> Mathieu,
> > >> Tks
> > >> Pls NOTE MY SERIOUS OBJECTIONS to:
> > >> 1.NOT MENTIONING REFERNCE TO THE APPROVAL OF CHARTERING
> > >> ORGANIZATIONBS in HR
> > >> 2. GIVE GIVE A BLANKET AGREEMENT TO THE DOCUMENTS WHICH YET
> TO BE
> > >> DRAFTED.
> > >> 3. Making so many changes to the Third proposals . We must
> avoid
> > >> having a new proposal
> > >> Kavouss
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2016-05-01 22:42 GMT+02:00 Mathieu Weill <
> mathieu.weill at afnic.fr <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>
> > >> <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
> >>>:
> > >>
> > >> Dear colleagues,
> > >>
> > >> Please find below for your consideration some suggestions
> from
> > >> our lawyers for clarification of the bylaw language
> regarding
> > >> the Human rights FoI. This follows our request during the
> > >> previous call.
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >>
> > >> Mathieu Weill
> > >> ---------------
> > >> Depuis mon mobile, désolé pour le style
> > >>
> > >> Début du message transféré :
> > >>
> > >>> *Expéditeur:* "Gregory, Holly" <holly.gregory at sidley.com
> > <mailto:holly.gregory at sidley.com>
> > >>> <mailto:holly.gregory at sidley.com
> > <mailto:holly.gregory at sidley.com>>>
> > >>> *Date:* 1 mai 2016 19:10:53 UTC+2
> > >>> *Destinataire:* "'Mathieu Weill'"
> > <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>
> > >>> <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
> > <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>>>, "'Thomas Rickert'"
> > >>> <thomas at rickert.net <mailto:thomas at rickert.net>
> > <mailto:thomas at rickert.net <mailto:thomas at rickert.net>>>, León
> Felipe
> > >>> Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe at sanchez.mx
> > <mailto:leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>
> > >>> <mailto:leonfelipe at sanchez.mx
> > <mailto:leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>>>, "bylaws-coord at icann.org
> > <mailto:bylaws-coord at icann.org>
> > >>> <mailto:bylaws-coord at icann.org
> > <mailto:bylaws-coord at icann.org>>" <bylaws-coord at icann.org
> > <mailto:bylaws-coord at icann.org>
> > >>> <mailto:bylaws-coord at icann.org
> > <mailto:bylaws-coord at icann.org>>>
> > >>> *Cc:* ACCT-Staff <acct-staff at icann.org
> > <mailto:acct-staff at icann.org>
> > >>> <mailto:acct-staff at icann.org
> > <mailto:acct-staff at icann.org>>>, "Rosemary E. Fei"
> > >>> <rfei at adlercolvin.com <mailto:rfei at adlercolvin.com>
> > <mailto:rfei at adlercolvin.com <mailto:rfei at adlercolvin.com>>>,
> > >>> "ICANN at adlercolvin.com <mailto:ICANN at adlercolvin.com>
> > <mailto:ICANN at adlercolvin.com <mailto:ICANN at adlercolvin.com>>"
> > >>> <ICANN at adlercolvin.com <mailto:ICANN at adlercolvin.com>
> > <mailto:ICANN at adlercolvin.com <mailto:ICANN at adlercolvin.com>>>,
> > >>> Sidley ICANN CCWG <sidleyicannccwg at sidley.com
> > <mailto:sidleyicannccwg at sidley.com>
> > >>> <mailto:sidleyicannccwg at sidley.com
> > <mailto:sidleyicannccwg at sidley.com>>>,
> > >>> "Samantha.Eisner at icann.org
> > <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>
> > >>> <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org
> > <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>>"
> > >>> <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org
> > <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org> <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org
> > <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>>>
> > >>> *Objet:* *Human Rights Transition Provision: Bylaws
> Section
> > >>> 27.3(a)*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Dear Co-Chairs and Bylaws Coordinating Group:
> > >>>
> > >>> On the CCWG call last week, there was a discussion of the
> > >>> Bylaws language regarding the transition provision on
> Human
> > >>> Rights*//*[27.3(a)] and it was suggested that the
> > language be
> > >>> clarified to ensure that the same approval process used
> for
> > >>> Work Stream 1 would apply. We propose the following
> > >>> clarifying edits. We suggest that you share this with
> the
> > >>> CCWG and if there is agreement, the following proposed
> edit
> > >>> should be included in the CCWG’s public comment:____
> > >>>
> > >>> Redline:____
> > >>>
> > >>> *Section 27.3. HUMAN RIGHTS____*
> > >>>
> > >>> __ __
> > >>>
> > >>> (a) The Core Value set forth in Section 1.2(b)(viii)
> shall
> > >>> have no force or effect unless and until a framework of
> > >>> interpretation for human rights (“*FOI-HR*”) is approved
> by
> > >>> (i) approved for submission to the Board by the
> > >>> CCWG-Accountability as a consensus recommendation in Work
> > >>> Stream 2, and (ii) approved by each of the
> > >>> CCWG-Accountability’s chartering organizations and (iii)
> the
> > >>> Board, (in each thecase of the Board, using the same
> process
> > >>> and criteria used by the Boardto consider the as for Work
> > >>> Stream 1 Recommendations).____
> > >>>
> > >>> __ __
> > >>>
> > >>> (b) No person or entity shall be entitled to invoke the
> > >>> reconsideration process provided in Section 4.2, or the
> > >>> independent review process provided in Section 4.3, based
> > >>> solely on the inclusion of the Core Value set forth in
> > >>> Section 1.2(b)(viii) (i) until after the FOI-HR
> contemplated
> > >>> by Section 27.3(a) is in place or (ii) for actions of
> ICANN
> > >>> or the Board that occurred prior to the____
> > >>>
> > >>> effectiveness of the FOI-HR.____
> > >>>
> > >>> Clean:____
> > >>>
> > >>> *Section 27.3. HUMAN RIGHTS____*
> > >>>
> > >>> __ __
> > >>>
> > >>> (a) The Core Value set forth in Section 1.2(b)(viii)
> shall
> > >>> have no force or effect unless and until a framework of
> > >>> interpretation for human rights (“*FOI-HR*”) is (i)
> approved
> > >>> for submission to the Board by the CCWG-Accountability
> as a
> > >>> consensus recommendation in Work Stream 2 and (ii)
> approved
> > >>> by the Board, in each case, using the same process and
> > >>> criteria as for Work Stream 1 Recommendations.____
> > >>>
> > >>> __ __
> > >>>
> > >>> (b) No person or entity shall be entitled to invoke the
> > >>> reconsideration process provided in Section 4.2, or the
> > >>> independent review process provided in Section 4.3, based
> > >>> solely on the inclusion of the Core Value set forth in
> > >>> Section 1.2(b)(viii) (i) until after the FOI-HR
> contemplated
> > >>> by Section 27.3(a) is in place or (ii) for actions of
> ICANN
> > >>> or the Board that occurred prior to the____
> > >>>
> > >>> effectiveness of the FOI-HR.____
> > >>>
> > >>> Kind regards, ____
> > >>>
> > >>> __ __
> > >>>
> > >>> Holly and Rosemary____
> > >>>
> > >>> __ __
> > >>>
> > >>> __ __
> > >>>
> > >>> *HOLLY* *J. GREGORY*
> > >>> Partner and Co-Chair
> > >>> Corporate Governance & Executive Compensation Practice
> > Group____
> > >>>
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> > <mailto:holly.gregory at sidley.com>>
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> > <http://www.sidley.com/>____
> > >>>
> > >>>
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