[CCWG-ACCT] Notes, recordings and transcript for Diversity Subgroup Meeting #19 | 20 April 2017

Fri Apr 21 18:22:12 UTC 2017

Hi all,
my apologies, this meeting did not show in my calendar and I missed it :(
Will follow up with recordings and notes
Best regards and a nice weekend to all
Olga

2017-04-21 15:17 GMT-03:00 MSSI Secretariat <mssi-secretariat at icann.org>:

> Hello all,
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> The notes, recordings and transcripts for CCWG Accountability WS2 *Diversity
> Subgroup Meeting #19* – 20 April 2017 will be available here:
> https://community.icann.org/x/LNfRAw
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> A copy of the action items and notes may be found below.
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> Thank you.
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> With kind regards,
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> *Brenda Brewer,** Projects & Operations Assistant *
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> Multistakeholder Strategy & Strategic Initiatives (MSSI)
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> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
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> *Action Items:*
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>    - *Rafik Damak – Send a reminder to the group to read the draft
>    proposal and make comments*
>    - *Rafik Damak – send a reminder to the list that comments on the
>    gender diversity questionnaire are due by Friday 28 April.*
>    - *Ergys Rmaj – Amend gender diversity questionnaire per the accepted
>    suggestions from the discussion*
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> *Notes (including relevant portions of chat):*
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> 10 Participants at start of call.
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> *1. Roll call*
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> *2. Review of action items*
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>    - Rafik Dammak – Send a reminder to the group to read the draft
>    proposal and make comments.
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> Rafik Damak - TBC
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> *3. Gender Diversity Survey Review*
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> Ergys Ramaj - (background and presentation of the draft survey document)
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> Rafik Damak - is this just to gather information or do you think you will
> use this to make recommendations - trying to avoid duplication.
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> Ergys Ramaj - the community has been calling for additional information on
> this so there can be an informed discussion on the topic. If useful we may
> use similar surveys on other areas of diversity - but mostly about
> gathering information.
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> Avri Doria - Questions dealing with leadership - curious as it seems as
> long as someone is in any leadership position, even entry position in
> leadership, that there are no limitations to accessing leadership.
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> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: The survey is lacking any question or perspective
> on young women. It is fundamental to measure this aspect as gender
> diversity is threatened greatly by power structures which ally w/ age and
> it also impacts on training and leadership perspectives. SuggestionWere you
> part of youth engagement programs? Yes/NoAre you a young participant and do
> you feel that this has an impact on gender and leadership? Mostrar menos
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> Ergys Ramaj - we are trying to measure perception. Will be modifying to
> questionnaire wrt this.
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> avri doria: thanks - had not gone back to the doc after commenting
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> Julie Hammer - Survey could be confusing to people who are not following
> our work of that of the CCWG-Acct. and as such could be confused with our
> work. Should be clear in the introduction that this is ICANN staff doing
> this for the community and that the results will be shared with us.
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> Ergys Ramaj - will do.
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> Sebastien Bachollet - a little confused this survey seems to be more about
> EQUALITY vs DIVERSITY. We need equality one man for one woman.
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> Ergys Ramaj - sometimes questions on gender go to equality but it should
> not be binary - its about gender diversity.
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> Rafik Damak - We have had this discussion before.
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> avri doria: i hope we do not start using a transgender as an excuse for
> lack of parity.  that would be too cynical by half.
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> Sebastien Bachollet - Agree with comment by AD. We are not yet with
> equlity yet we want to go further than that - I am just suggesting that we
> first have equality between men and women as a first step without stopping
> the work there - but just this would be a very important step.
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> Avri Doria - this was not my meeting - very ok to deal with transgenders
> for us. It is good that we are doing this but to use it to not understand a
> lack of parity.
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> Rafik Damak - can we clarify between Parity and Equality.
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> Avri Doria - Equality gets to be confusing and is used in many ways -
> people get treated equally - looking at a Board over a 10 year span then
> men and women would be about the same numbers. fuzzy notion .
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> renata aquino Ribeiro - Just wondering about the age perspective. should
> look at age and gender diversity as this is very important in the survey.
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> Ergys Ramaj - Are you asking we include a question about age?
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> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: yes, about young women participants in the community
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> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: and how gender impacts that participation (many
> sub-questions regarding youth leadership training).
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> Ergys Ramaj - would need to define Youth if we go there which is another
> dimension of diversity so this would be hard given the survey is not only
> for women - also the exit survey questions deal with this in part.
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> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: Understand but understanding young woman
> participating in the community. So this is important - not looking at this
> would leave out important data and would help align this with how power
> structures.
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> Ergys Ramaj - would defer to the group. We could cover this in further
> surveys when dealing with age. question 5 does deal with age.
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> Renata Aquino Ribeiro- this survey has to properly identify issues.
> Identification as a minority group in the survey - there could be elements
> of diversity which could be explored.
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> Avri Doria - how can we include these points in the survey - in the
> clearance question you could expand a bit to get more information. could
> also include one on other forms of diversity.  Re question about barriers -
> you include more things.
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> avri doria: just not sure all of the age and origin should be optonal.
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> renata aquino: +1 on race too
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> Nadira AlAraj: +1 to include the different demographic diversity questions
> to do coronatio
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> Rafik Damak - Good suggestions and we can add comments in the Google doc
> for this. When are you planning to finalize this survey.
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> Ergys Ramaj - AD very useful - on timing we would appreciate if comments
> could be in by then end of next week. Looking to have a full report in late
> June or early July.
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> Rafik Damak - Action Item will send a reminder to the list.
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> avri doria: a lot of the questions are in the optional exit survey but
> some should be brougght into the main part of the q for relation and
> correlation analyisis
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> *4. Draft Report
> Discussion   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l2cGcx8nNvYSg_ZMUVnoC2t0VKb4ATQVTXxcxYILrXc/edit
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l2cGcx8nNvYSg_ZMUVnoC2t0VKb4ATQVTXxcxYILrXc/edit>*
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> (no time for this item)
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> *5. AOB*
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> (none)
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> *Adjourned.*
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> *Decisions:*
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> none
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