[CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability-WS2-TravelSupport-ICANN59Johannesburg-25June2017-Announcement and Process

Nigel Roberts nigel at channelisles.net
Mon Feb 27 10:26:02 UTC 2017


Whilst I 100% agree with the previous contributors regarding the utility 
of the proposal (and hope this puts the tin lid on that discussion), and 
I also understand the reason that Leon put this out to the wider group, 
possibly to forestall any accusations of junketing, I am mildly 
uncomfortable with what seems to me to be  a 'voting' mentaily on this.

To my simplistic mind, ICANN is a business. (Specifically, a non-profit 
business).

Where a particular expenditure advances the corporation's interests, it 
SHOULD be undertaken. Where it does not, not.

In this case, I would have simply preferred Leon to obtain the agreement 
of the fund-holder or gate-keeper (the other co-chairs?) and use the 
facility to promote the work-to-be-done, without provoking this great 
chorus of metoos.

The reason I say this, is that in the future, this procedure if it 
becomes de rigeur, might discourage participation whereby some people 
may be inhibited from asking for necessary facilities if it has to be 
'approved' by every Member and Participant, or at least commented upon 
in the name of faux-transparency.

Seriously, ICANN is a billion dollar business.

Let's worry about doing the work, eh?

Oh, yes, in case it wasn't clear.

"I also agree with the proposed expenditure".






On 27/02/17 10:05, Lori Schulman wrote:
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> I agree that Leon should be accorded the exception to the travel rules
> and be offered a business class ticket.
>
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> Lori
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> Lori S. Schulman
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> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of
> *Paul Rosenzweig
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:42 PM
> *To:* 'Kavouss Arasteh' <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>;
> Mathieu.Weill at afnic.fr; 'Thomas Rickert' <rickert at anwaelte.de>; 'León
> Felipe Sánchez Ambía' <leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>
> *Cc:* accountability-cross-community at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT]
> CCWG-Accountability-WS2-TravelSupport-ICANN59Johannesburg-25June2017-Announcement
> and Process
>
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> I am pleased to have the opportunity to say: “I agree with Kavouss.”
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> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of
> *Kavouss Arasteh
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 26, 2017 4:42 AM
> *To:* Mathieu.Weill at afnic.fr <mailto:Mathieu.Weill at afnic.fr>; Thomas
> Rickert <rickert at anwaelte.de <mailto:rickert at anwaelte.de>>; León Felipe
> Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe at sanchez.mx <mailto:leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>>
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> *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT]
> CCWG-Accountability-WS2-TravelSupport-ICANN59Johannesburg-25June2017-Announcement
> and Process
>
>
>
> Dear Co-Chairs,
>
> It seems that everybody agree for the upgrading to Business Class and
> one additional day of acco0mmodation for Leon.
>
> Pls kindly decide on the matter favorably and put an end to this string
>
> Regards
>
> Kavouss
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> 2017-02-24 18:58 GMT+01:00 Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>:
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>     I would also note that this itinerary is an absolute minimum 20
>     hours gate-to-gate, and more likely 24 hours or so (which is close
>     to 30 hours door-to-door) or even more....
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>     Greg
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>     On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Greg Shatan
>     <gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>         Agree with Phil, assuming that fits into Leon's schedule.
>         Sometimes the extra day isn't personally available, even though
>         it is always desirable.
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>         Greg
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>         On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Seun Ojedeji
>         <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com <mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>             +1 to Phil's suggestion
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>             Regards
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>             On Feb 24, 2017 4:47 PM, "Phil Corwin" <psc at vlaw-dc.com
>             <mailto:psc at vlaw-dc.com>> wrote:
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>                 Not objecting to the request, but noting this statement –
>
>
>
>                 Taking into account this situation and the fact that I
>                 will be chairing our
>                 face to face meeting just hours after I land in South Africa
>
>
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>                 Given that, as we all know, air travel is susceptible to
>                 unanticipated delays, if ICANN is going to incur the
>                 extra expense of business class perhaps it would be
>                 better for Leon to book an earlier flight itinerary.
>                 Even if it meant an extra night of accommodations, it
>                 would minimize the possibility of a flight delay that
>                 prevented Leon from chairing the meeting.
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>                 *On Behalf Of *Kavouss Arasteh
>                 *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 10:33 AM
>                 *To:* Mathieu Weill;
>                 accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>                 <mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>                 *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT]
>                 CCWG-Accountability-WS2-TravelSupport-ICANN59Johannesburg-25June2017-Announcement
>                 and Process
>
>
>
>                 Dear Co-Chairs,
>
>                 The situation is fully understandable and seems no one
>                 object to the ligitiate and convincing request of Leon.
>
>                 Regards
>
>                 Kavouss
>
>
>
>                 2017-02-24 14:19 GMT+01:00 Mathieu Weill
>                 <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>>:
>
>                 Dear Colleagues,
>
>                 For transparency, please be aware of the below specific
>                 request by Leon
>                 Sanchez  regarding travel funding for Johannesburg.
>
>                 Considering the proposed arrangement and the fact that
>                 Leon will have to
>                 (co-)chair our F2F meeting on Day 1, we are prepared to
>                 grant the request,
>                 unless the group objects.
>
>                 Thank you for your attention.
>                 Best
>                 Thomas & Mathieu
>                 Co-chairs
>
>
>
>                 -----Message d'origine-----
>                 De : León Felipe Sánchez Ambía
>                 [mailto:leonfelipe at sanchez.mx]
>                 Envoyé : mercredi 15 février 2017 15:49
>                 À : Thomas Rickert (thomas at rickert.net
>                 <mailto:thomas at rickert.net>); Mathieu Weill
>                 Cc : Accountability Staff
>                 Objet : Request for travel exception
>
>                 Dear Thomas and Mathieu,
>
>                 As the period to request travel support for our meeting
>                 in Johannesburg gets
>                 closer I would like to kindly ask for your consideration
>                 for an exception to
>                 our travel support rules given that traveling from
>                 Mexico to South Africa
>                 requires a double Intercontinental trip in any way I
>                 travel (either through
>                 Europe or South America).
>
>                 Taking into account this situation and the fact that I
>                 will be chairing our
>                 face to face meeting just hours after I land in South
>                 Africa, I would kindly
>                 request that business class travel is authorized for
>                 this one time. Please
>                 feel free to share this request as widely as you
>                 consider for transparency
>                 purposes.
>
>                 I thank your for your consideration in advance.
>
>                 Best regards,
>
>
>                 León
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>
>
>
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>                 *De la part de* Bernard Turcotte
>                 *Envoyé :* vendredi 17 février 2017 23:21
>                 *À :* Accountability Cross Community
>                 *Objet :* [CCWG-ACCT]
>                 CCWG-Accountability-WS2-TravelSupport-ICANN59Johannesburg-25June2017-Announcement
>                 and Process
>
>
>
>                 ​​
>
>                 ​​The body of this email contains:
>
>
>
>                   * The announcement for Travel Funding Applications for
>                     the CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Face to Face at ICANN59
>                     on 25 June 2017
>                   * The CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Travel Funding Policy
>                   * The CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Travel Funding
>                     Application Form (Applications must be submitted by
>
>>
>                  23:59 UTC Sunday 19 March 2017)
>
>
>
>                 All,
>
>
>
>                 The CCWG-Accountability
>
>                 ​-WS2​
>
>                 has travel funding for some Members and Rapporteurs to
>                 attend the Face to Face meetings held the day prior to
>                 an ICANN meeting who do not have any other funding
>                 available to them to attend.
>
>
>
>                 Members are those individuals that are specifically
>                 appointed by the chartering SO/ACs to the
>                 CCWG-Accountability - the list of Members can be found
>                 at https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=59640780 .
>
>
>
>
>                 Rapporteurs are those listed as such on the
>                 CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Wiki for specific sub-groups
>                 located at
>                 https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/WS2+SubGroup+Topics.
>                 Please see the attached policy for details regarding
>                 this funding.
>
>
>
>                 If you are not a Member or a Rapporteur, please do not
>                 apply as there is a very limited number of seats available.
>
>
>
>                 The next Face to Face meeting of the CCWG-accountability
>                 will be held on 25 June 2017 in conjunction with ICANN
>                 59 in Johannesburg South Africa.
>
>
>
>                 Those Members and Rapporteurs wishing to be considered
>                 for travel funding should fill out the attached form and
>                 submit it by
>
>                 ​​
>
>                 23:59 UTC Sunday 19 March 2017 to Acct-Staff at icann.org
>                 <mailto:Acct-Staff at icann.org>.
>
>
>
>                 The funding is for the Face- to- Face meeting
>
>                 ​ of the CCWG-Accountability WS2​
>
>                 , which can include airfare, hotel and a per-diem
>                 allocation for meals for attending the Face to Face
>                 meeting only (and not the full ICANN meeting). However,
>                 in analyzing the requests the
>
>                 ​ ​
>
>                 ​CCWG-Accountability-WS2 ​
>
>                 Co-Chairs will consider requests for partial funding
>                 (such as only an additional day of hotel and per diem to
>                 attend the Face to Face meeting) in order to maximize
>                 participation. As such Members are encouraged to only
>                 apply for what they need to allow for funding as many
>                 Members and Rapporteurs as possible.
>
>
>
>                 The final decisions on travel funding will be made by the
>
>                 ​CCWG-Accountability-WS2 ​
>
>                 Co-Chairs and published on the CCWG-Accountability WS2
>                 wiki at
>                 https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Travel+Supportwithin
>                 7 days of the application period closing (a confirmation
>                 of the posting will be sent to the CCWG email list).
>
>
>
>                 Those being supported will then be contacted by ICANN
>                 Travel using the standard ICANN travel funding process
>                 to arrange details.
>
>
>
>                 Should you have any questions please do not hesitate to
>                 contact the CCWG-Accountability support staff at
>                 Acct-Staff at icann.org <mailto:Acct-Staff at icann.org>.
>
>
>
>                 ​Bernard Turcotte
>
>
>
>                 ICANN Staff Support to the CCWG-Accountability-WS2​
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                 *Updated Process for Expressions of Interest requesting
>                 CCWG Travel Support (December 2016)*
>
>
>
>
>                 The current budgeted amount to support the work of CCWG
>                 WS2 members allocates travel support (travel, hotel and
>                 per diem) for an amount equivalent to 20 appointed
>                 members or rapporteurs to attend only a CCWG
>                 face-to-face meeting. The Co-Chairs have the authority
>                 to re-allocate this amount – this could include
>                 supporting requests for partial funding to allow them to
>                 maximize the number of members attending (e.g. the
>                 requestor may ask for any or all of the following:
>                 airfare, and/or hotel and/or per diem) or to extend the
>                 stay of some key participants.
>
>
>
>                 You are eligible for travel support from the CCWG if you
>                 are an officially appointed member of WS2 from a
>                 chartering SO or AC or if you are officially listed as a
>                 Rapporteur or Co-Rapporteur on the
>                 CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Wiki located at
>                 https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/WS2+-+Enhancing+ICANN+Accountability+Home.
>
>
>
>                 Travel support arrangements will follow Constituency
>                 Travel Guidelines located at:
>                 https://community.icann.org/display/trvlconstit/Constituency+Travel+Home
>
>
>
>
>                 The CCWG travel support slots will be allocated in
>                 priority as follows:
>
>
>
>                 CCWG-Accountability Co-Chairs – 3 slots (or equivalent
>                 amount)
>
>
>
>                 CCWG-Accountability Chartering Organization Appointed
>                 Members
>
>                 CCWG-Accountability Rapporteurs
>
>
>
>                 CCWG appointed Members and Rapporteurs requesting
>                 consideration by the Co-Chairs for travel support to
>                 attend a face-to-face meeting must complete and submit
>                 the travel request form by the stipulated deadline in
>                 order to be considered for funding.
>
>
>
>                 NOTE: In evaluating the applications for travel funding
>                 the Co-Chairs will consider applicant's attendance to
>                 CCWG meetings and their contributions to the ongoing
>                 work as well as the availability of alternate funding to
>                 the applicant.
>
>
>
>                 CCWG Staff support will send out an announcement
>                 regarding the application for travel support and
>                 deadline for application submissions as soon as a
>                 face-to-face meeting has been approved. Applications to
>                 request travel support are located at:
>                 https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Travel+Support
>
>
>
>                 Completed forms can be sent to  Acct-Staff at icann.org
>                 <mailto:Acct-Staff at icann.org>for submission to the
>                 Co-Chairs for review and approval.
>
>
>
>                 All applicants for CCWG WS2 travel support will be
>                 posted on the CCWG WS2 wiki under Travel Support. Names
>                 will be listed REQUESTED and once approved will be
>                 listed as APPROVED for travel support including the type
>                 of support that is approved.
>
>
>
>
>                 The Co-Chairs will review the applications received,
>                 including the requests for partial support, and
>                 determine the list of approved CCWG members who will
>                 receive travel funding.
>
>
>
>                 The CCWG approved travel support list will be submitted
>                 to ICANN Constituency Travel for processing according to
>                 community travel guidelines.
>
>
>
>                 The approved list of funded CCWG members will be posted
>                 on the WS2 wiki at
>                  https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Travel+Suppor
>                 <https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Travel+Support>_t_
>
>>
>
>
>                 ===========================================================
>
>                 CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Supported Travel Request Form
>
>
>
>                 You are eligible for travel support from the
>                 CCWG-Accountability only if you are an officially
>                 appointed member of WS2 from a chartering SO or AC or if
>                 you are an officially listed Rapporteur for a WS2 sub-group.
>
>
>
>
>
>                 The CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Co-Chairs will review the
>                 applications received, including the requests for
>                 partial support, and determine the list of approved CCWG
>                 members who will receive travel funding.
>
>
>
>                 The CCWG-Accountability-WS2 approved travel support list
>                 will be submitted to ICANN Constituency Travel for
>                 processing according to community travel guidelines
>
>
>
>                 Travel support arrangements will follow Constituency
>                 travel guidelines located at:
>                 https://community.icann.org/display/trvlconstit/Constituency+Travel+Home
>
>
>
>
>                 CCWG-Accountability-WS2 appointed Members or rapporteurs
>                 requesting consideration by the Co-Chairs for travel
>                 support to attend a face-to-face meeting must complete
>                 and submit the travel request form by the stipulated
>                 deadline in order to be considered for funding.
>
>
>
>                 Applicant Identification
>
>                 ========================
>
>
>
>                      Name:
>
>
>
>                      Chartering Org or Rapporteur for which WS2 Group:
>
>
>
>                      Email address:
>
>
>
>                      Date of Request:
>
>
>
>
>
>                 Other sources of support
>
>                 ========================
>
>
>
>                 Please indicate if you are receiving travel support from
>                 another organization to attend the ICANN meeting
>
>
>
>                      I am receiving support from another organization
>                 (yes or no):
>
>
>
>                 If you are not receiving support from another
>                 organization, please proceed to “Support requested from
>                 CCWG-Accountability”. If you are receiving support,
>                 please provide the information requested below:
>
>
>
>                      Name of the Organization(s) providing the support:
>
>
>
>                 Indicate type of support and how many days the support
>                 is provided (BY FUNDING ORGANIZATION):
>
>
>
>                      Airfare (yes or no):
>
>
>
>                      Hotel (# days):
>
>
>
>                      Per Diem (# days):
>
>
>
>
>
>                 Support requested from CCWG-Accountability
>
>                 ===========================================
>
>
>
>                 Please indicate the type of travel support (including
>                 the number of days) you are seeking from the CCWG for
>                 WS2 -please remember this is only for attending the Face
>                 to Face meeting and is not for the entire ICANN meeting.
>
>
>
>                      Airfare (yes or no):
>
>
>
>                      Hotel (# days):
>
>
>
>                      Per Diem (# days):
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