[CCWG-ACCT] [Ws2-jurisdiction] Jurisdiction Subgroup. Draft Report. Statement of Brazil. Annex. To be annexed to the draft report. For consideration by the CCWG.

Sun Oct 15 22:41:06 UTC 2017

I can't track all of these discussions, especially most of the last
year.  If you tally support for the Chair/Rappoteur's report, don't
count me as I've been absent.  I'd have liked to have heard something
other than what the minority report is claiming regarding the quality
and substantive range of discussions, but that needs to be chiefly an
outside view looking on, not someone who actually participated and
witnessed much at all in the discussion.

Seth

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 6:20 PM, Paul Rosenzweig
<paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com> wrote:
> There is much that can be said in response to these submissions – including
> the substantive corrections that has been offered by Greg, which I endorse
> completely.  Any suggestion that the subgroup report is the product of an
> “incorrect census-level designation made by the Chair” is false as to fact
> and the suggestion should be withdrawn.
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>
> At this point, however, the only other thing that needs saying is that the
> views of Parminder and the Brazilian government were extensively discussed
> in the subgroup and never garnered majority support (much less support
> approaching consensus).  As such, the dissenting views of the minority are
> just that – minority views reflecting the opinion of a small dissatisfied
> group of dissenters.
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> The subgroup was open to participation from everyone in the ICANN community
> and it did reach consensus on the two issues presented, which I commend to
> the favorable attention of the plenary.
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> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of
> parminder
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 2:22 PM
> To: Thiago Braz Jardim Oliveira <thiago.jardim at itamaraty.gov.br>;
> accountability-cross-community at icann.org
> Cc: acct-staff at icann.org; gac at icann.org; GAC <gac at gac.icann.org>;
> ws2-jurisdiction <ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] [Ws2-jurisdiction] Jurisdiction Subgroup. Draft
> Report. Statement of Brazil. Annex. To be annexed to the draft report. For
> consideration by the CCWG.
>
>
>
> Dear All
>
> I fully support the excellent "statement of Brazil", which makes the
> required point very well. The sub-group should consider the draft
> recommendations made in the statement. In default, the CCWG should directly
> consider them.
>
> My own dissenting opinion is enclosed. It is in two parts, part 1 is about
> what was the group's mandate to do but it failed to do. This part first
> expresses support to Brazil's statement, and then makes additional points,
> detailing how there has been a miscarriage of due process, and thus
> justifying why Brazil's draft recs must be considered, in the required
> elaborate manner. Part one is enclosed herewith.
>
> Part two will present  some comments on and disagreements with regard to the
> two sets of draft recs that have been submitted on the sub-group's behalf. I
> am still to write them, so allow me to submit them in the next 12 hours,
> which will still be the weekend in some parts of the world, and thus within
> the deadline I hope.
>
> Best regards, parminder
>
>
>
> On Sunday 15 October 2017 06:43 AM, Thiago Braz Jardim Oliveira wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> On behalf of the Brazilian Government, I hereby submit the "Statement of
> Brazil" and its annex, which are to be annexed to the draft report of the
> jurisdiction subgroup, submitted on 11 October 2017, for consideration by
> the CCWG plenary.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Thiago
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>
> ________________________________
>
> De: ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org [ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org]
> em nome de Greg Shatan [gregshatanipc at gmail.com]
> Enviado: quinta-feira, 12 de outubro de 2017 23:29
> Para: accountability-cross-community at icann.org
> Cc: acct-staff at icann.org; ws2-jurisdiction
> Assunto: Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] Jurisdiction Subgroup Draft Report for
> CCWG-Accountability Plenary Review
>
> All,
>
>
>
> One of the Subgroup members pointed out a minor editing error in the
> document.  On pages 13-14, there were several mentions of the RAA, when in
> fact the language quoted and discussed was from the ICANN Terms and
> Conditions for Registrar Accreditation Application.  (The reference was
> correct in the Executive Summary.)  This has now been fixed in the attached.
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> All,
>
>
>
> Some minor formatting errors crept into the Report when it was converted
> from Word to PDF.  A new PDF of the report is attached. I've checked each
> page to confirm that the formatting errors were resolved.
>
>
>
> Thank you to Jorge Cancio for catching this problem!
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:53 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> All,
>
>
>
> I am pleased to submit the Draft Report from the Jurisdiction Subgroup for
> consideration by the CCWG-Accountability Plenary.
>
>
>
> It is my understanding that a minority viewpoint is expected to be
> submitted.  In the interests of time, this will be submitted to the Plenary
> separately from the Draft Report.
>
>
>
> During the preparation of the OFAC Recommendation, the Subgroup considered
> an email where a registrar declined to do business with a potential
> reseller, based on the registrar’s policy of not doing business with people
> with Iranian passports.  The Subgroup also learned that this registrar,
> which had been registering domains for a number of Iranian nationals,
> refused to continue to do business with them.  The Subgroup has concluded
> that, to the extent these instances are related to OFAC, the concerns raised
> by these instances are adequately covered in the Recommendation already
> without any additional changes.  This is not in any way a comment on the
> validity of these particular concerns.  The Subgroup will consider creating
> "stress tests" based on these scenarios.
>
>
>
> I look forward to the Plenary's reading of the Draft Report.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Greg Shatan
>
> Rapporteur
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