[CCWG-ACCT] SOAC-Accountability question, for reply by 11-Sep-2017

[Alan Greenberg]

Fine. So we recommend that SO/ACs consider whether to consider term limits.

Alan 
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On September 8, 2017 3:46:58 PM EDT, Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco at netchoice.org> wrote:
>Avri — we are recommending Good Practices that the group believes are
>worth implementing (if applicable).
>
>None of the other 28 Good Practices suggest to “consider” something to
>do.   All are suggestive that implementation is a good practice, and
>all our recommendations imply that AC/SO/Groups should therefore
>“consider" implementation.
>
>Steve
>
>From:
><accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>>
>on behalf of avri doria <avri at apc.org<mailto:avri at apc.org>>
>Date: Friday, September 8, 2017 at 3:32 PM
>To:
>"accountability-cross-community at icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>"
><accountability-cross-community at icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>>
>Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] SOAC-Accountability question, for reply by
>11-Sep-2017
>
>Hi,
>
>My understanding was that the statement being discussed was whether
>they
>should consider term limits.
>
>I think this is an important difference.  And I think that
>strengthening
>the statement into something that is easier to disagree with, is
>unfortunate.
>
>I think the act of considering the need for term limits is all that is
>required.  You are right, it is not best for all.  But considering
>whether to impose them or not is a good practice as it gives those who
>hold positions without term limits who may see no reason for term
>limits, to be challenged by those out of power who may think they are
>needed. At this point there is no recommendation that all SOAC/AG/C
>consider term limits so those who want them may be flat out of luck.
>
>I suggest that we avoid change the wording of the recommendation and
>that we support the recommendation that all entities consider whether
>they need term limits or not.
>
>I personally believe that yes, we should add the consideration of terms
>limits as a good practice.
>
>
>avri
>
>
>On 08-Sep-17 09:27, Steve DelBianco wrote:
>As discussed on our SOAC team call yesterday, we are nearly finished
>with our public comment responses
><https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uAjMUtnaigi5-zSMGmmIbvFNcPxGQC0cMB_a7XskQfI/edit#gid=639129231>
>and updated recommendation
><https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sT6SscZLT7VK2rVFOMPaiK1Qd8vlVLkm0boRX7I8ru0/edit#>
>to the CCWG.
>
>One remaining question is whether to add an additional Good Practice
>to the 28 we already have in our report.
>
>The purpose of this email is to hear from all members of
>SOAC-Accountability as to whether our report should include this new
>proposed Good Practice:
>
>
>  *An AC/SO/Group that elects its officers should impose term limits. *
>
>Note that this proposed Good Practice would _only_ apply to
>AC/SO/Groups that have elections.  And as with all of our Good
>Practices, we describe applicability in our Executive Summary:
>
>     In Track 1 we recommend 29 Good Practices that each SO/AC/Group
>     should implement, to the extent these practices are applicable and
>     an improvement over present practices.  We do not recommend that
>     implementation of these practices be required. Nor do we recommend
>     any changes to the ICANN bylaws.  We do recommend that Operational
>     Standards for periodic Organizational Reviews conducted by ICANN
>     could include an assessment of Good Practices implementation in
>     the AC/SO subject to the review.
>
>And we include this caveat on page 8:
>
>      "AC/SO/Groups are only expected to implement Good Practices to
>     the extent that these practices are applicable and an improvement
>     over present practices, in the view of AC/SO/Group participants.
>      Again, we do not recommend that implementation of these practices
>     be required by AC/SO/Groups.”
>
>Please reply to all by 11-Sep with your view on whether we should add
>Term Limits as a Good Practice.
>
>
>
>
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