[CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability-WS2 - 27-28 September Plenary Agenda and Materials - 1 of 2 - FoI text proposal to bridge divergences

[Greg Shatan]

Avri,

Thanks for your explanation.  I understand where you and Nigel are each
coming from now.

I agree with your points regarding non-profits and Ruggie.

Reading Nigel's email, I thought he was advancing the strawman that the
only reason Ruggie is a bad fit for ICANN is that it's a non-profit.  My
goal was to point out that ICANN's unique role makes it unlike a business
at all (non-profit or for-profit), and that this is the primary reason
Ruggie doesn't fit.

But I agree that the nonprofit status poses additional challenges.

Finally, none of this is to say that Ruggie should not be considered in the
implementation of the Human Rights Core Value -- which is already supported
in the Considerations portion of the document.

It is to say that Ruggie should not be used to interpret the meaning of the
Bylaw itself.

Greg

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:30 PM avri doria <avri at apc.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I disagree.  It is one of the factors that makes certain parts of the
> Guidelines less appropriate for ICANN than for GE.  One of the things
> several of us attempted during the long course of the subgroup, before
> the matter was referred to the plenary, was to get Ruggie to to produce
> an explanatory version specific for Not-for-profit as he has done for
> other groups.
>
> So my two recommended edits, i.e inclusion of the "not-for-profit"
> modifier and the phrase "as appropriate" were in recognition of this
> being the case.
>
> avri
>
>
>
> On 29-Sep-17 03:23, Nigel Roberts wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 29/09/17 07:23, Greg Shatan wrote:
> >> Whether ICANN is non-profit or not is beside the point.  That is not
> >> the issue.
> > Agreed. It is entirely beside the point and has no place in any
> > statement as if it did.
> >
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