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Dear Pedro,<br>
<br>
Many thanks for volunteering to participate. <br>
Thank you also for raising these important clarifying questions.
Clarity on the outcome is essential to efficiency. <br>
<br>
I reply to each of your questions below. <br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 10/12/2014 15:37, Pedro Ivo Ferraz
da Silva a écrit :<br>
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As I attempted to say yesterday on the call, outcome of Areas I, II
and III should endeavour to caracterize mechanisms in relation to
the agreed upon definition of accountability :
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In addition, it would be great to identify which stakeholders do or
would benefit for the various mechanisms. <br>
<br>
Such an assessment would enable to aggregate a global view of
accountability across its various dimensions as well as the range of
stakeholders. <br>
<br>
Does that make sense to the group ? <br>
<br>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US">What
is exactly meant by "contingencies" (Area IV)? Deficiencies
in existing accountability mechanisms or unexpected
interdependence between accountability processes? An example
would be mostly welcome here.</span></p>
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</blockquote>
The intent here is to identify contingency scenarios that we could
use to "stress test" our scenarios. Excellent examples are provided
by the Business Constituency and are already on our wiki : <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Stress+Tests+from+the+Business+Constituency">https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Stress+Tests+from+the+Business+Constituency</a>
<br>
<br>
Thanks again for enabling this clarification and please, if any
further clarity is needed please let us know. <br>
<br>
Best<br>
Mathieu Weill<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">I would be glad to
participate in one of the subgroups, not as a
coordinator/rapporteur (unfortunately I am heavily involved
with other non-ICANN related groups), but as a contributor.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you in advance,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="mso-fareast-language:PT-BR">Sec.
Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="mso-fareast-language:PT-BR">Divisão
de Sociedade da Informação (DI)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="mso-fareast-language:PT-BR">Ministério
das Relações Exteriores - Brasil<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="mso-fareast-language:PT-BR">T:
+ 55 61 2030-6609<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="mso-fareast-language:PT-BR"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="mso-fareast-language:PT-BR">-----Mensagem
original-----<br>
De: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] Em
nome de Grace Abuhamad<br>
Enviada em: terça-feira, 9 de dezembro de 2014 20:57<br>
Para: Marika Konings; Accountability Cross Community<br>
Assunto: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Notes, action items &
materials from today's meeting</span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Dear all, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">The meeting page (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/x/M4MHAw"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://community.icann.org/x/M4MHAw</span></a>)
has been updated with notes, recording, and chat transcript.
The formal transcript will follow. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Please add my email address (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</span></a>)
as well as the
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:accountability-staff@icann.org"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">accountability-staff@icann.org</span></a>
email address to your contacts to avoid the messages going to
spam/junk folders. If you have an issue, request, etc, please
direct your message to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:accountability-staff@icann.org"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">accountability-staff@icann.org</span></a>.
This will allow for the team to respond in a timely manner. As
much as possible, when communicating as your staff support
(call details, etc.), we will endeavor to use the
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:accountability-staff@icann.org"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">accountability-staff@icann.org</span></a>
address.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Best, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Grace<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">From: Marika Konings <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">marika.konings@icann.org</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:02 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">To: Accountability Cross Community <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Subject: [CCWG-Accountability] Notes,
action items & materials from today's meeting<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Please find below the notes and action
items from today’s meeting. The materials presented during the
meeting have also been attached. Please note the following
action items:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Everyone to provide /
complete their statement of interest, if not done so yet<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Contact Grace if you are
interested in volunteering as the ATRT Past Participant (for
members/participants that have participated in ATRTI/II)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Everyone is expected to be
familiar with the charter so please review the charter in
detail if you have not done so yet.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Staff to review current
make-up of CCWG and suggest a rotation that takes into account
location of members & participants. (to be shared later
today or tomorrow)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* All to provide feedback on
draft timeline (see attached)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Volunteers to come forward
for these sub-teams prior to the meeting next week, especially
a co-ordinator / rapporteur for Area III.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">All the materials, including recordings
and transcript will be posted on the CCWG wiki shortly (see
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/x/M4MHAw"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://community.icann.org/x/M4MHAw</span></a>).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">The next meeting has been scheduled for
Tuesday 16 December at 11.00 UTC.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Marika<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Notes 9/12<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">1. Welcome, roll call &
introductions<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Please remember to mute
your microphones when not speaking<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Introduction of co-chairs
- Thomas Rickert (GNSO) & Mathieu Weill (ccNSO).
Additional co-chairs may be appointed by other chartering
organizations.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Introduction of support
staff for the CCWG: Grace Abuhamad, Adam Peake, Bart
Boswinkel, Marika Konings, Berry Cobb. Note that Grace and
Adam will be the primary points of contact for this effort.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Roll call will be taken
based on the attendance in Adobe Connect, asking those that
are only on the phone bridge to identify themselves.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Everyone is expected to
complete a statement of interest - staff will follow up with
those that have not provided one yet<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* When signing into Adobe
Connect, add your affiliation in brackets after your name to
facilitate identification of participants<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Please use the Adobe
Connect hands raised function to indicate if you want to join
the speaking queue. For an introduction to Adobe Connect,
please see
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a227210/participatemeeting/"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a227210/participatemeeting/</span></a>.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Action item: Everyone to provide /
complete their statement of interest, if not done so yet<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">2. Update on Membership &
Participation<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Participants participate
in the same way as chartering organization appointed members<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Chartering organization
appointed members have an additional role as they are
responsible for reaching out to their respective chartering
organizations and ensure that information goes back and forth
from CCWG to chartering organization<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* No formal votes /
consensus calls are planned to be taken as the chairs intend
to operate on the basis of consensus of the whole CCWG (any
formal consensus call would involve chartering organizations
appointed members only).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* No decisions will be taken
on the basis of one single call - any decisions / agreements
will be circulated on the mailing list at a minimum to allow
for participants to provide input before a decision /
agreement is considered final. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Action item: Contact Grace if you are
interested in volunteering as the ATRT Past Participant (for
members/participants that have participated in ATRTI/II)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">3. Review of CCWG-Accountability Charter<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Review of presentation
(Please see presentation that was circulated together with the
agenda)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Public Experts Group (PEG)
Update - announcement will be made shortly concerning 6
advisors which have been selected. 7th advisor still being
identified (local law, choice of law, jurisprudence).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Will there be an expert
who can identify what is possible under Californian
law/international law? CCWG can reach out to advisors,
including their networks, to provide input or aim to address
those issues directly.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* The CCWG will be free to
identify and request additional advisors, if need be.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* ATRTI/II discussed /
researched some of these questions so some of that information
may be available in those reports and should be consulted
first.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Mechanism for delivery of
work stream 1 deliverable - delivery of WS1 proposal is
expected to occur following approval of the ICANN Board. Board
liaison is participating in CCWG and may be able to raise any
potential issues ahead of time, should there be any. Process
by which the Board intends to consider the proposal can be
found here:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2014-10-16-en#2.d"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2014-10-16-en#2.d</span></a>
and is also referenced in the charter.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* How will this CCWG liaise
/ interface with the IANA Stewardship Transition CWG and ICG?
There are two individuals serving as the ICG liaison (Keith
Drazek and Kavouss Arasteh). In relation to the IANA
Stewardship Transition CWG, weekly calls have been scheduled
between the chairs of the two CWGs to ensure co-ordination and
communication.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Action item: Everyone is expected to be
familiar with the charter so please review the charter in
detail if you have not done so yet.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">4. Confirm Working Methods<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* See also slide deck<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Rotation of meetings -
initial proposal was 11.00 and 14.00 UTC. Other rotations have
been used by other groups which may also be explored.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* No firm decisions are
taking into account in one single meeting - any proposed
decisions / agreements will be open to review / comment by
those that may not have been able to attend a meeting<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Members are expected to
communicate the views of the communities that have selected
them to the CCWG but also communicate back information and
deliberations from the CCWG to their respective communities<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* All are expected to be
familiar with and remain consistent with the pre-existing
documents and documents developed during the course of the
work of the CCWG.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Provide substantive issues
ahead of the meeting (ideally 12 hours in advance)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Where/how to post
documents on the wiki space?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Audio-cast will be
available for those interested in following the meetings -
please share that link instead of the Adobe Connect link which
is intended to be the workspace for members & participants<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Please share documents not
only in proprietary format but always include at a minimum a
pdf version<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Action item: Staff to review current
make-up of CCWG and suggest a rotation that takes into account
location of members & participants. (to be shared later
today or tomorrow)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">5. Timeline<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* See timeline slides
presented - any comments / input encouraged<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Is it the intention that
the CCWG finishes its work after Final Report on WS2 or could
it continue as a standing CCWG? Charter does not foresee that
the CCWG would continue on an indefinite basis - group is
expected to close. But CCWG could make a recommendation to
that end should it be deemed appropriate?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Further details will be
included in the timeline as the CCWG fleshes out its work<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Action item: All to provide feedback on
draft timeline<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">6. Foundation for Work Plan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Suggested committees:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Area I: Look at existing
accountability mechanisms, including ATRTI/II recommendations.
Co-ordinator/Rapporteur: David Maher / Samantha Eisner<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Area II: Review input
received in response to earlier public comment period on
accountability and categorize items in WS1 and WS2 or both,
including identifying proposals that have been made.
Deliverable: list of items that have been suggested and
identify whether these belong in WS1, WS2 or both.
Co-ordinator/Rapporteur: Steve DelBianco<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Area III: Review what has
been identified by IANA Transition CWG in relation to
accountability and whether that is all WS1 related.
Co-ordinator/Rapporteur: TBC<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Area IV: Identify
contingencies that could be relevant to accountability
mechanisms, especially in relation to WS1.
Co-ordinator/Rapporteur: Eric Brunner-Williams<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Input received in response
to public comment could include broader issues /
recommendations than just area II<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Individual mailing list
will be set up for these sub-committees to faciliate their
work.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Sub-committees to develop
proposed approach / timeline in time for next meeting<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Action item: Volunteers to come forward
for these sub-teams prior to the meeting next week, especially
a co-ordinator / rapporteur for Area III.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">7. AOB<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Consider scheduling next
meeting for 120 minutes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Next meeting will be
scheduled for Tuesday 16 December at 11.00 UTC.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Reminders will be sent
prior to the meetings but are not sent to the publicly
archived mailing list but are sent individually (please
whitelist Grace Abuhamad's email address) to avoid these
ending up in your spam filter<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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