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<font size="+1"><font face="Century Schoolbook">As do I, and I very
much regret any hurt feelings or lack of respect send to Mr.
Arasteh. We appreciate his participation.<br>
Susan Ariel Aaronson, Ph.D. <br>
</font></font>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/12/2014 11:48 AM, Olga Cavalli
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAPNZ5T7LTs==dYZ6DW3MaxJX=xttHRK2npGvdT-qPR=uMW2dJA@mail.gmail.com"
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<div dir="ltr">Hi,
<div>I support the statement made by Thomas Schneider, GAC
chair.</div>
<div>Regards</div>
<div>Olga Cavalli</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-12-12 13:00 GMT-03:00 <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Thomas.Schneider@bakom.admin.ch"
target="_blank">Thomas.Schneider@bakom.admin.ch</a>></span>:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Dear
Mr. Buckingham</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">Your message below, addressed to
Kavouss Arasteh, representative of the Government of
Iran, does not meet the standards that we all as
members of the ICANN community should treat and talk
to each other.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">You may disagree with the points
someone makes, you may have the view that somebody
is taking up to much time/space on a mailing list. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">This is all fine and it is your right
to communicate such views.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">But we all – as members of the global
ICANN community – should always express ourselves
with respect and take care of the words we use. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">We are here working together in a
global environment with people coming from very
different stakeholder backgrounds and also from very
different regions of the world with different
cultures and ways of expressing ourselves.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">But what we should all have in common
when engaging – agreeing or disagreeing – with each
other is a minimal standard of decency and manners
in the way we talk to each other. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">Thank you for giving this due regard in
future communications.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">Best,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">Thomas Schneider</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">Chair of the GAC</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">P.S.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">if the honourable queen of the united
kingdom knew that someone with such a name expresses
himself in such a way as you just did, she would
probably be “not amused” </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US">J</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Phil Buckingham<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 12. Dezember 2014
16:46<br>
<b>An:</b> 'Kavouss Arasteh'; 'Malcolm Hutty'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Accountability Cross Community'<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Sign
Up for Work Areas!</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-GB">Kavouss,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-GB">I apologise for being so blunt.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-GB">Most of us haven’t got time to
read your drivel.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-GB">Please go away, get yourself up to
speed, and allow us to focus on the very
difficult tasks ahead.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-GB">Thanks,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-GB">Phil Buckingham</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kavouss Arasteh<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 December 2014 08:42<br>
<b>To:</b> Malcolm Hutty<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Accountability Cross Community<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Sign
Up for Work Areas!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span
lang="EN-GB">Dear Malcolm,</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span
lang="EN-GB">Dear Mathew,</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span
lang="EN-GB">Dear Thomas </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span
lang="EN-GB">Whether you take my comment as
ICG Liaison or as GAC Member or as a
participant, the points are still valid.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span
lang="EN-GB">I do not wish to dispute about
the protocol and formalities which is a time
wasting issue.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span
lang="EN-GB">Pls kindly take my points and
consider them under any sub group
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span
lang="EN-GB">They are more than valid.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span
lang="EN-GB">Kavouss </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span
lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span
lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span
lang="EN-GB">2014-12-12 8:28 GMT+01:00
Malcolm Hutty <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:malcolm@linx.net"
target="_blank">malcolm@linx.net</a>>:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span
lang="EN-GB"><br>
<br>
On 11/12/2014 20:52, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:<br>
> Dear all,<br>
> Collection of existing info should not
be limited to those mentioned above<br>
<br>
I agree.<br>
<br>
If a member or participant (*) would like to
raise an accountability<br>
issue for this CCWG to consider, surely they
should be able to do so<br>
irrespective of whether it was mentioned in
the previous public comment<br>
period or not? It may have been mentioned
elsewhere, or arise anew.<br>
<br>
Please would the Chairs advise how they
would like such issues to be<br>
raised (for example, within WG1, within WG2
but not WG1 etc)<br>
<br>
If the Chairs wish to exclude such items and
limit the scope of this<br>
CCWG's work to matters previously raised (I
do not think this is the<br>
intention, but let's be sure) then please
say so explicitly, so that the<br>
group may consider that proposition. If it
is intended that new matters<br>
can be raised, we need to know how you would
prefer that we do so.<br>
<br>
Kind Regards,<br>
<br>
Malcolm.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
(*) Is there a collective noun that we could
use that would include both<br>
"members" and "participants", without giving
offence to either?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
> All discussions and arguments referred
to in UN, ITU, IGF, NetMundial<br>
> and other forum must be collected<br>
> But these are excising materials .<br>
> What new elements, new ideas ,
innovative approach are on the table<br>
> What an bout the review of RFP
initially published by NTIA?<br>
> What about the AoC ?/<br>
> What about views expressed by GAC at
various meeting with ATRT ?<br>
> What about the recent views of the
under Secretary of DOC?<br>
> Why CCWG only replies on ongoing
activities of CWG limited to naming<br>
> There is a need to have a real RFP to
public with sufficient deadline<br>
> comments not less than one month<br>
> Regards<br>
> Kavouss<br>
><br>
> 2014-12-11 6:18 GMT+01:00 Grace
Abuhamad <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</a><br>
> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org"
target="_blank">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</a>>>:<br>
><br>
> Dear all,<br>
><br>
> Here is the current list of
volunteers for each of the four work<br>
> areas. Please sign up if you are
able and interested.<br>
><br>
> *Work Area 1: Existing
Accountability Mechanisms (including ATRT 1
&<br>
> ATRT 2 Recommendations)____*<br>
><br>
> *Coordinators/Rapporteurs*: David
Maher / Samantha Eisner____<br>
><br>
> Volunteers: ____<br>
><br>
> * Robin Gross____<br>
><br>
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> <mailto:<a
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Public Comment and Categorize Items<br>
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><br>
> Deliverable: list of items that
have been suggested and identify<br>
> whether these belong in WS1, WS2 or
both.____<br>
><br>
> *Coordinator/Rapporteur*: Steve
DelBianco____<br>
><br>
> Volunteers: ____<br>
><br>
> * Jordan Carter____<br>
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> __ __<br>
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><br>
> *Coordinator/Rapporteur*: TBC____<br>
><br>
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><br>
> __ __<br>
><br>
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Contingencies (especially in relation to<br>
> WS1)____*<br>
><br>
> *Coordinator/Rapporteur*: Eric
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Susan Ariel Aaronson, Ph.D.
Research Professor of International Affairs, Institute of International Economic Policy
Elliott School of International Affairs, George Washington University
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gwu.edu/~elliott/faculty/aaronson.cfm">http://www.gwu.edu/~elliott/faculty/aaronson.cfm</a>
Please visit the Trade and the Internet Project Web site:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gwu.edu/~iiep/governance/taig/">http://www.gwu.edu/~iiep/governance/taig/</a>
See <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://tinyurl.com/lanrzda">http://tinyurl.com/lanrzda</a>
for advice on digital trade and internet freedom
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gwu.edu/~iiep/researchandpublications/signatureinitiatives/governance/Trade_Trust_Transparency_Accountability/">http://www.gwu.edu/~iiep/researchandpublications/signatureinitiatives/governance/Trade_Trust_Transparency_Accountability/</a>
Work on trade, trust, and accountability: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://tinyurl.com/of9loy8">http://tinyurl.com/of9loy8</a>
Please visit my SSRN user page: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://ssrn.com/author=1145702">http://ssrn.com/author=1145702</a>
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