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</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">Dear All,</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">Thank you very much for all contributions</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">I understand your anxiety, your perplexity and your fear to touch
this very sensitive issue.</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">I encourage you all that you need to tackle the issue matter <span> </span>how difficult and controversial it would be.</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">We must clearly mention the following</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">What is the description of the term accountability in a concise, precise
and realistic / pragmatic matter within the frame work of international law?</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">We need to clearly and specifically mention what are the Legal Framework
which would be applicable to the transitioned function? ,no doubt it should not
be Californian Law as we do not wish to be at the mercy of Californian Judges </span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">We need to clearly and specifically mention what is the accountability
environment that we are talking about?</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">Who is accountable to whom and on what?</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt"> What are the mechanism (s) which should be duly put in place
to implement that accountability?</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">Who are the members of that mechanism?</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">How multistakeholders, including Governments should act according to
their role and responsibilities?<br>
Apart from governments representation whose legitimacy are enshrined
with their credential form Their respective Governments (participation Credentials)
what are the legitimacy of other multistakeholder ? .No doubt the notion of someone
speaking on behalf of herself or himself is totally illegitimate and
unacceptable </span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">What are the partitioning in representation and footing between and of
the four informally recognized categories of multistakeholders?</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">Governments</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">Civil Society </span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">Private Sector</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">Technical Community and Academic</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">How the legitimacy of each group together with their accreditation should
examine and ensured? ,</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">Who define and approve the terms and conditions and scope of
accountability?</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">What are the
criteria to determine whether or not those terms, conditions and scope have
been implemented?</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">Who are
policy making entities? </span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:14pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">Who are the policy implementing entities?</font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:14pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">What is the policy in question? </font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:14pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">What is the relation between the current A o C in
force and the envisaged accountability?</font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:14pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">What is the future of ICANN BY LAWS?</font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:14pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">Who can amend that?</font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:14pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">How can it be amended?</font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:14pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">Does the accountability terms and condition form part
of Bylaw:</font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:14pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">Why should it not be renamed to something else such as
Convention, Charter, and Constitution and so on? </font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:14pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">Should the current structure of ICANN be retained? </font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:14pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">If not, what would be the revised structure of ICANN? </font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:14pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">What would be the role of NTIA after transition?</font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:14pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">Should it be given the authority to continue its legacy
on some taks such as contract with Verisign? </font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:14pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">There are many questions to be answered.</font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:14pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">Regards</font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:14pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">Kavouss </font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:14pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri"> </font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
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</font></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-12-17 17:53 GMT+01:00 Malcolm Hutty <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:malcolm@linx.net" target="_blank">malcolm@linx.net</a>></span>:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On 2014-12-17 16:07, Jordan Carter wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
Thanks Bruce, Steve.<br>
<br>
I've read the rest of the thread and think it goes down a little bit<br>
of a rabbit hole, but that's OK (maybe it means the same one won't<br>
appear later?).<br>
<br>
For me the primary concern with a non-defined use of the term "public<br>
interest" is that it gives license to the person using it to advance<br>
beyond the ICANN remit of technical coordination of the DNS and other<br>
Internet identifiers, into all sorts of other things. Alternatively,<br>
it can be used to try and dismiss proposed policy or practice that<br>
make sense to the operational communities.<br>
<br>
On that basis I have a degree of comfort with Steve's post. If we are<br>
clear that ICANN serves the global public interest by serving the<br>
operational communities and coordinating among and between names,<br>
numbers and protocols, then other questions get a bit easier to<br>
answer.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></span>
I wholeheartedly agree, and I think Steve's post points the way forward<br>
on defining what we want to hold ICANN accountable for doing.<br>
<br>
I would also apply the same reasoning to the comments going on a parallel thread<br>
on "principles of international public law".<br>
<br>
Certainly I would regard it as being in the public interest that ICANN<br>
should discharge its functions properly, and in accordance with generally<br>
accepted principles of law. I would be very wary, however, of linking<br>
those concepts in a way that pointed to ICANN's functions being bent towards<br>
promoting the multitude of objectives and outcomes that might be said to<br>
be a matter of public interest, or called for by principles of international<br>
public law.<br>
<br>
So if we are to refer to these concepts, I think it is very important<br>
*how* we refer to them. We should be very careful not to create a sense<br>
that the narrow scope of ICANN's responsibilities for DNS is supplemented<br>
by a broader ambition to use the DNS to pursue a general and unbounded set<br>
of policies "in the public interest", or to accept responsibility for achieving<br>
the goals set by the wide range of instruments and measures that make up<br>
international public law.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Malcolm.<br>
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