<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>The DomainNewsAfrica article is actually an article from The Daily Caller website -- but actually only the first page; apparently they couldn't be bothered to cut and paste the second page. The article engages in some speculation about the Swiss idea, but hardly reports that it is ICANN's "intention" to move ICANN to Europe. On the whole, it reports that it is not, but points to some statements by Fadi Chehade sufficient to support speculation, as well as other statements intended to quell such speculation.<br><br></div>The Yahoo search is even more useless as a citation for this idea. <br><br></div>And, yes, I was aware that ICANN was "spear phished" (not "spearfished"). FYI, spear phishing is a form of phishing using email spoofing to target an organization with the goal of gaining access to confidential data. Through spoofing, the recipient believes they are receiving an email from a trusted individual known to the recipient. The spear phisher will request that the recipient take an action that will ultimately result in the phisher gaining access to confidential information.<br><br></div></div>What do you mean when you refer to "DRS"? I assume you are referring to URS (and/or UDRP?) The fact that WIPO acts as an arbitral body for these dispute resolution mechanisms proves nothing.<br><br></div>I look forward to a citation to a hearing where someone from ICANN said they were moving the organization out of the US and into Switzerland.<br><br><br></div>Greg<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(23,54,93)">Gregory S. 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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:15 AM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:el@lisse.na" target="_blank">el@lisse.na</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><div>Dear co-Chairs,</div><div><br></div><div>(through the chair)</div><div><br></div><div>would you agree with me that someone who uses <a href="http://domainnewsafrica.com" target="_blank">domainnewsafrica.com</a> and an (unreflected) Yahoo search as sources, does not know what Spearfishing is, considers rented offices in LA and dispute resolution in Europe (ie WIPO) as indication of intention to leave the country, should go to the Principal's office to get a few with the clue stick?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>greetings, el<span class=""><br><br>Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini</span></div><span class=""><div><br>On Dec 18, 2014, at 07:15, Carrie Devorah <<a href="mailto:carriedev@gmail.com" target="_blank">carriedev@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Here is what I emailed to Greg<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Research, reading.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Attending hearings.<br>Are you not aware the intention is to move ICANN to Europe? <br><br><a href="http://domainnewsafrica.com/can-icann-be-trusted-if-obama-allows-for-oversight-transition/" target="_blank">http://domainnewsafrica.com/can-icann-be-trusted-if-obama-allows-for-oversight-transition/</a><br><br><a href="https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=icann+plans+to+move+Iana+to+switzerland&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001" target="_blank">https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=icann+plans+to+move+Iana+to+switzerland&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001</a><br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Offices in LA are rented.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Oversight/DRS is shifted to EU<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Are
you aware ICANN was hacked AGAIN even though testified to Congress
never been hacked nor will ever be? Last month it was 'spearfished'
whatever the heck that is<br></div></div><br>On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Greg Shatan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:Where did you ever get such an idea? "Stated" by whom?<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Alan Greenberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I must have missed those stated plans... Alan<br><br>
At 17/12/2014 11:07 PM, Carrie Devorah wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Why are you worried about
planning for California laws when the stated plans are if and when
Congress lets IANA go the plan is, not to keep ICANN/IANA in America but
to move IANA to Switzerland where it will be under legal oversight for
DRS of WIPO?<br>
Sincerely<br>
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