<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">From the minutes of LA's GAC meeting</span><br><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><a href="https://gacweb.icann.org/download/attachments/27132037/GAC%20LA51%20MINUTES%201.2td.pdf?version=1&amp;modificationDate=1415614403000&amp;api=v2" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font color="#000000">https://gacweb.icann.org/download/attachments/27132037/GAC%20LA51%20MINUTES%201.2td.pdf?version=1&amp;modificationDate=1415614403000&amp;api=v2</font></a></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">[...]</span></div><div><span style="font-weight: 700; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-weight: 700; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HUMAN RIGHTS &amp; APPLICATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW</span></div><div><div class="page" title="Page 9"><div class="layoutArea"><div class="column"><p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">GAC agreed that the linked issues of human rights and the application of international law to ICANN activities require further consideration, particularly in the context of follow- up to NetMundial; and with regard to future new gTLD rounds, including encouraging diversity and protecting vulnerable groups.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Peru explained their circulated proposal for amendment of the ICANN ByLaws, submitting that ICANN cannot be detached form international standards, conventions, and case law.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">GAC agreed to consider all of these issues further inter-sessionally, including obtaining legal opinion if appropriate, and considering ways of working with the community as these matters are of concern beyond just the GAC.<span style="vertical-align: 2pt;">8</span></span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span style="font-weight: 700;">ACTION POINT</span>: Above points to be reflected in the Communiqué.&nbsp;<span style="font-weight: 700;">DONE.&nbsp;</span>ACIG GAC Secretariat to prepare briefing (for GAC Leadership Group in first instance) identifying associated work in other parts of the community and drafting a request for legal opinion.&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">[...]</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">greetings, el</span></p><p><br></p></div></div></div></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">On Dec 18, 2014, at 00:22, Burr, Becky &lt;<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></span></font></div><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Ok, that makes sense. &nbsp;<br><br>J. Beckwith Burr<br>Neustar, Inc. / Deputy General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer<br>1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20006<br>Office: + 1.202.533.2932 &nbsp;Mobile: &nbsp;+1.202.352.6367 &nbsp;/ <a href="mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz">becky.burr@neustar.biz</a> / <a href="http://www.neustar.biz">www.neustar.biz</a><br><br>Reduce&nbsp;your environmental footprint. &nbsp;Print only if necessary.<br>Follow Neustar:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Facebook&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;LinkedIn&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Twitter<br><br>The information contained in this email message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this email message in error and any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and delete the original message.<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Eric Brunner-Williams [<a href="mailto:ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net">mailto:ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net</a>]&nbsp;<br>Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 5:16 PM<br>To: Burr, Becky; '<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>'<br>Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Related work on ICANN's Public Interest<br><br>Hi Becky,<br><br>Correct. These do not arise from the IANA Functions Contract, nor from "generally accepted principles of law".<br><br>I'm attempting to make the point that the latter -- "generally accepted principles of law" -- provides little if any basis for significant activities of the contractor.<br><br>I'm also alluding to Malcolm's closing comment:<br></span></font><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">We should be very careful not to create a sense that the narrow scope&nbsp;<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">of ICANN's responsibilities for DNS is supplemented by a broader&nbsp;<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">ambition to use the DNS to pursue a general and unbounded set of&nbsp;<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">policies "in the public interest",</span></font></blockquote><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">l attempt to show that even when the IANA Functions are as narrowly construed as we can sensibly make them, "public interest" leads us to larger ends than we originally had, or are reflected in the several IANA Functions Contracts since 1998.<br><br>Regards,<br>Eric Brunner-Williams<br>Eugene, Oregon<br><br><br></span></font><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">On 12/17/14 1:45 PM, Burr, Becky wrote:<br></span></font><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Eric - I don't think that the IANA Functions Contract provides any support for IANA adding IDNs, dealing with IPv4 issues, or DNS sec. &nbsp;Those are all policy issues to be addressed through ICANN's policy development processes, the number registry processes, etc.<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">J. Beckwith Burr<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Neustar, Inc. / Deputy General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20006<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Office: + 1.202.533.2932 &nbsp;Mobile: &nbsp;+1.202.352.6367 &nbsp;/&nbsp;<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a href="mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz">becky.burr@neustar.biz</a> / <a href="http://www.neustar.biz">www.neustar.biz</a><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Reduce your environmental footprint. &nbsp;Print only if necessary.<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Follow Neustar: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Facebook &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;LinkedIn &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Twitter<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The information contained in this email message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this email message in error and any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and delete the original message.<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">-----Original Message-----<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">From: <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>&nbsp;<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">[<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of&nbsp;<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Eric Brunner-Williams<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 4:21 PM<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">To: <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Related work on ICANN's Public&nbsp;<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Interest<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">On 12/17/14 8:53 AM, Malcolm Hutty wrote:<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Certainly I would regard it as being in the public interest that&nbsp;<br></span></font></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">ICANN should discharge its functions properly, and in accordance with&nbsp;<br></span></font></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">generally accepted principles of law.</span></font></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Dear Malcolm,<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">What "generally accepted principles of law" do you suggest apply to the management of protocol parameters?<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Similarly, what "generally accepted principles of law" do you suggest apply to the management of globally unique address identifiers?<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">And finally, what "generally accepted principles of law" do you suggest apply to the management of globally unique resource-to-address identifiers (domain names)?<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">There is of course, from the Green and White Papers period, competition policy and a transition from an incumbent monopoly contract to a competitive regime, but other than that, where do the "generally accepted principles of law" properly inform the party or parties conducting each of these three management activities?<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Where, among the "generally accepted principles of law" would one look for support of the proposition that adding labels in the Han Script to the IANA root zone is in "the public interest"?<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Similarly, where would one look for support of the proposition that allocation of scarce v4 addresses not be made solely upon the basis of highest price offered?<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">And finally, where would one look for support of the proposition that algorithms for signing zones include the GOST suite?<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">My point being that when the IANA Functions are as narrowly construed as we can sensibly make them, "public interest" and "generally accepted principles of law" are difficult to find points of association, let alone concordance.<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Regards,<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Eric Brunner-Williams<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Eugene, Oregon<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">_______________________________________________<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list&nbsp;<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mail">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mail</a><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">man_listinfo_accountability-2Dcross-2Dcommunity&amp;d=AwICAg&amp;c=MOptNlVtIET<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">eDALC_lULrw&amp;r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&amp;m=21WkLbYAQg<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">aFgGddhTzyvdthwNn0XurygbLmS45PSjY&amp;s=bCcyHZCqN-IOwtwknipHWSJY1WdQkDrV1t<br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">DAuhQIQTI&amp;e=</span></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"></blockquote><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br>_______________________________________________<br>Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a></span></font></blockquote></body></html>