<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Here is what I emailed to Greg<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Research, reading.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Attending hearings.<br>Are you not aware the intention is to move ICANN to Europe? <br><br><a href="http://domainnewsafrica.com/can-icann-be-trusted-if-obama-allows-for-oversight-transition/" target="_blank">http://domainnewsafrica.com/can-icann-be-trusted-if-obama-allows-for-oversight-transition/</a><br><br><a href="https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=icann+plans+to+move+Iana+to+switzerland&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001" target="_blank">https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=icann+plans+to+move+Iana+to+switzerland&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001</a><br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Offices in LA are rented.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Oversight/DRS is shifted to EU<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Are
you aware ICANN was hacked AGAIN even though testified to Congress
never been hacked nor will ever be? Last month it was 'spearfished'
whatever the heck that is<br></div></div><br>On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Greg Shatan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:Where did you ever get such an idea? "Stated" by whom?<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Alan Greenberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I must have missed those stated plans... Alan<br><br>
At 17/12/2014 11:07 PM, Carrie Devorah wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Why are you worried about
planning for California laws when the stated plans are if and when
Congress lets IANA go the plan is, not to keep ICANN/IANA in America but
to move IANA to Switzerland where it will be under legal oversight for
DRS of WIPO?<br>
Sincerely<br>
Carrie Devorah<br><br>
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 10:41 PM, León Felipe Sánchez AmbÃa
<<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>>
wrote:<br>
<dl>
<dd>Dear Kavouss,<br><br>
</dd><dd>I like the idea of examining other options. Which options should we
be looking at?<br><br>
</dd><dd>Best regards,<br><br>
</dd><dd>León<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<dd>El 17/12/2014, a las 14:21, Kavouss Arasteh
<<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">
kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<br><br>
</dd><dd> <font face="Times New Roman, Times"> </font><br>
</dd><dd>Dear All,<br>
</dd><dd>The entity may be one option. However, it is not what we were
thinking of<br>
</dd><dd>First of all, no mentioned was made of GAC<br>
</dd><dd>Second the composition of the group is not mentioned<br>
</dd><dd>Third the footing is not mentioned<br>
</dd><dd>Fourth the legal Framework is not mentioned and<br>
</dd><dd>More importantly, it seems to me that every possible effort is made
to maintain the current structure as we are talking of SO and AC
.However, this is not the realistic composition.<br>
</dd><dd>We need to look at other option in which the process is more
democratic.<br>
</dd><dd>All these SO and AC are not fully democratic as the stakeholder does
not have direct role on that<br>
</dd><dd>Please kindly do not limit us to merely existing practice and
model<br>
</dd><dd>There are variety of possibilities<br>
</dd><dd>I know most of you are for statuesque <br>
</dd><dd>But I and many others wants to see and examine other options
<br><br>
</dd><dd>Kavouss<br>
</dd><dd><font face="Calibri"> </font><br><br>
</dd><dd>2014-12-17 17:45 GMT+01:00 "Carlos Raúl G."
<<a href="mailto:crg@isoc-cr.org" target="_blank">crg@isoc-cr.org</a>>:<br>
<dl>
<dd>Dear Steve <br><br>
</dd><dd>Are you suggesting we include changes in the bylaws within the scope
of the working groups? I would have a few suggestions!<br><br>
</dd><dd>Cheers<br><br>
</dd><dd>Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez<br>
</dd><dd><a href="tel:%2B506%208335%202487" target="_blank">+506 8335 2487</a><br>
</dd><dd>Enviado desde mi iPhone<br><br>
</dd><dd>El dic 17, 2014, a las 10:20 AM, Steve DelBianco
<<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>
> escribió:<br><br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<dd>This pertains to our discussion yesterday about a permanent,
cross-community ‘Membership’ group to hold ICANN board and management
accountable to the community. It was described this way in
<a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/51414327/WorkArea2%20Accountability%20suggestions%20%5Bdraft%203%5D.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1418610739000&api=v2" target="_blank">
draft3</a> for work area 2: <br><br>
<dl>
<dd>Amend ICANN bylaws to recognize a permanent cross-community
representative structure (all ACs, SOs, Constituencies) with authority
to:<br><br>
<dl>
<dd>Appoint members of Affirmation review teams<br>
</dd><dd>Review a board decision, or resolve a dispute (option to use
independent panel)<br>
</dd><dd>Approve changes to ICANN bylaws or Articles, with 2/3 approval<br>
</dd><dd>Approve annual proposed ICANN budget<br>
</dd><dd>Recall one or all ICANN Board members<br><br>
</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></blockquote></dd></dl></dd></blockquote></dd></dl>
<br>
<dd>One of the groups
<a href="http://www.innovationfiles.org/key-principles-for-the-icann-transition/" target="_blank">
proposing</a> a community of stakeholders as ultimate authority posted a
relevant
<a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/technology/227375-icann-transition-plan-needs-new-ideas-to-ensure-accountability" target="_blank">
Op-Ed</a> in a Washington paper today. Daniel Castro of the
Information Technology & Innovation Foundation (ITIF) wrote:<br><br>
<dl>
<dd>California state law applies since ICANN is a registered nonprofit
corporation in the state. As such, California law allows nonprofit
organizations to have statutory members. Gunnarson suggests that one way
to provide an effective check on the ICANN board's power is to create
statutory members of ICANN with extensive authority over the board. This
authority could include removing board members, overturning board
decisions, etc. The statutory members would likely include the chairs of
the various ICANN "supporting organizations" and "advisory
committees," such as the Address Supporting Organization (ASO)
responsible for IP address policy and the Country Code Name Supporting
Organization (ccNSO) responsible for managing the country code top-level
domains. To ensure that the statutory members do not hold too much sway,
their actions could be limited to situations where there is a
supermajority (i.e., consensus). <br><br>
<br>
</dd></dl>
</dd><dd><font face="Calibri">We welcome </font>further<font face="Calibri">
elaboration of legal basis to enable this modification to ICANN’s
bylaws in conformance with California law.<br>
</font><br>
</dd><dd> <br><br>
</dd><dd>Steve DelBianco<br><br>
</dd><dd>Executive Director<br><br>
</dd><dd>NetChoice<br><br>
</dd><dd><a href="http://www.netchoice.org/" target="_blank">http://www.NetChoice.org</a> and
<a href="http://blog.netchoice.org/" target="_blank">http://blog.netchoice.org</a><br><br>
</dd><dd><a href="tel:%2B1.202.420.7482" target="_blank">+1.202.420.7482</a><br><br>
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Sincerely<br>
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<font size="1">DISCLAIMER : <br>
With the continuing crossing and interfacing of platforms both on &
off line both with & without our knowledge nor approval to note
nothing sent over the Internet anymore is ever private nor should be
presumed to be so. If it is that much of a secret, say nothing. If you
must? Take a lesson from our military- hand write the note, chew then
swallow <br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Sincerely</div>
<div>CARRIE Devorah</div>
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<div>562 688 2883</div><br> <br>
<br><font size="1"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial">DISCLAIMER : </span></font></div>
<div><font size="1"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial"></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial">With the continuing crossing and interfacing of platforms both on & off line both with & without our knowledge nor approval to note nothing sent over the Internet anymore is ever private nor should be presumed to be so. If it is that much of a secret, say nothing. If you must? Take a lesson from our military- hand write the note, chew then swallow <span> </span></span></font></div>
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