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Dear Mathieu, all,</div>
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<span class="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><i>is the mechanism providing check and balance, review or redress (see Netmundial definition of accountability in our Charter) ?</i></span></div>
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<span class="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><i>to whom does this mechanisms seek to make Icann accountable ?</i></span></div>
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<span class="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 254, 254);">Primarily, to the group of statutory members. As these are elected representatives of AC’s, SO’s and other structures representing the community, ultimately to the community</span></div>
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<span class="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><i>for what purpose does this mechanism make Icann accountable ? </i></span></div>
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<span class="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">In principle, on a high level, for everything it does. Excluding daily operations. But for strategy, operational performance, finance, risks and risks mitigation etc. The group of statutory members
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Mathieu Weill <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span>Mathieu Weill <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>vrijdag 19 december 2014 18:24<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Op-Ed from ITIF regarding permanent cross-community group as ultimate authority<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Dear Phil, Roelof, All,<br>
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It is great to see such a vigorous and creative thread on our list. It is still too early in our work to assess solutions of course, but I think we could really use your contributions (as well as the Op-Ed from ITIF) to inform our current questions regarding
the purpose of accountability, and its characteristics. <br>
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So it would be greatly valuable if you could look back at your proposals and expand on the following questions (currently being considered in WA1 about existing mechanisms) and mentioned in Thomas note after our latest call<br>
<span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">a) is the mechanism providing check and balance, review or redress (see Netmundial definition of accountability in our Charter) ?</span><br style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
<span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">b) to whom does this mechanisms seek to make Icann accountable ?</span><br style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
<span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">c) for what purpose does this mechanism make Icann accountable ?
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As mentioned in the note mentioned above, </span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">this would then be a great starting point to assess which issues are most needed to be tackled.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 19/12/2014 17:52, Phil Buckingham a écrit :<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">May I start a new thread and suggest a complete restructuring/ break up of ICANN, with a new corporate, tax paying entity, established, accountable for all revenue generating activity, particularly
from its management, facilitation and its on going responsibility, accountability, reporting of the whole gTLD programme, processes, procedures.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Are you aware that ICANN’s ( currently a 501 Californian not for profit - where no tax is payable) latest audited 2013 financial statements show a “surplus” of $83M ( with a further $32.4 M
development cost write back ) on $359M revenue received from 1930 applicants. It has also in addition, subsequently received <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/auctionresults">https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/auctionresults</a>
with another 100+ contention sets ( potentially )facing a last resort ICANN auction, where ICANN takes all the proceeds.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Perhaps this outside the CCWG -Accountability remit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Phil Buckingham<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Roelof Meijer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 December 2014 15:26<br>
<b>To:</b> Steve DelBianco; Accountability Cross Community<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Op-Ed from ITIF regarding permanent cross-community group as ultimate authority<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">"Gunnarson suggests that one way to provide an effective check on the ICANN board's power is to create statutory members of ICANN with extensive authority over the board. This authority could include removing board
members, overturning board decisions, etc. The statutory members would likely include the chairs of the various ICANN "supporting organizations" and "advisory committees," such as the Address Supporting Organization (ASO) responsible for IP address policy
and the Country Code Name Supporting Organization (ccNSO) responsible for managing the country code top-level domains. To ensure that the statutory members do not hold too much sway, their actions could be limited to situations where there is a supermajority
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">The possibility of introducing such a structure is certainly not limited to organizations operating under California State (or US Federal for that matter) Law. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">If the members of such a structure would be the (elected) chairs of the SO’s and AC’s and of a few other (e.g. IETF, IAB and –dare I suggest it- the SG of the ITU) to make it truly/fully multi-stakeholder, it could greatly enhance
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I would think that (indeed on the condition of a supermajority) this structure then could be given the power to (escalation with increase in number):</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">The nice thing about option 4 is that having it, will make it’s actual use unnecessary and will make options 1 to 3 a given. By rattling the sable, as the NTIA occasionally did, for sure..</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Only a very rough sketch, lots of develish details to be worked out. But in my opinion worth reflecting on. Not because it, as Kavouss suggests, „[is limited] </span><span style="color:#222222;background:white">to
merely existing practice and model”. As it is not. But because it builds onto what had been realized over the years and works pretty well most of the time. And because it might be part of a solution to both issues: the IANA stewardship transition and the enhancement
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#222222;background:#FFFEFE">And, now that I am having a go at it anyway, if the above would be implemented, another increase in ICANN’s accountability could be realized some time down the line. By replacing ICANN’s present
board by one of which none of the members are elected from an SO or AC , but all members are selected on the basis of their personal skills and expertise.</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Steve DelBianco <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>><br>
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<b>To: </b>Accountability Cross Community <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[CCWG-Accountability] Op-Ed from ITIF regarding permanent cross-community group as ultimate authority<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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provide an effective check on the ICANN board's power is to create statutory members of ICANN with extensive authority over the board. This authority could include removing board members, overturning board decisions, etc. The statutory members would likely
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