<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Though the co-chairs, AGAIN, </div><div><br></div><div>can we PLEASE dispense with trying to explain the basics to someone who most definitively has not taken the opportunity to do her homework in this regard?</div><div><br></div><div>This is a reasonably high volume Mailing List and it is difficult enough to try and keep up without these distractions.</div><div><br></div><div>el<br><br>-- <span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13pt; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);">Sent from </span><span style="font-size: 13pt;">Dr Lisse's iPhone 5s</span></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Jan 8, 2015, at 16:07, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Carrie:<br><br>That's exactly how it works, and the only way it works. Remember that the US is a federal system with two pertinent tiers of laws -- state and federal. <br><br>Organizations are created under state law, not under federal law (with extremely rare exceptions). Federal tax exemption is handled (by definition) at the federal level. A not-for-profit organization must first incorporate under state law, and then proceed to seek a federal tax exemption as a non-profit under 501(c)(3) (or other relevant subsections for particular types of organizations). <br><br>In other words, an organization cannot apply for federal tax exemption under 501(c)(3) <i>until</i> it has incorporated as a non-profit under the law of a state of the U.S. [While there are organizations other than corporations that may qualify for federal tax exemptions, such as trusts and "community chests," they are not relevant to this discussion.]<br><br></div>Hope this helps.<br><br></div>Greg Shatan<br><div><div><br><br><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Carrie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carriedev@gmail.com" target="_blank">carriedev@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thank you Bruce. But according to Ed 's California corporation registration number they have registered already as a ca corp. please explain how this occurs being a corp on CA at the same time registered as a non profit w the IRS ?<br>
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> On Jan 8, 2015, at 7:57 AM, Bruce Tonkin <<a href="mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au">Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hello Edward,<br>
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>>> I'm unaware of any current plan to shift ICANN status from non-profit to profit, although some have called for such a change (see, for example: <a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/technology/227726-icanns-number-is-up" target="_blank">http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/technology/227726-icanns-number-is-up</a> ).<br>
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> That is right - there is no plan from either the Board or staff to change from being a non-profit entity, and I haven't heard any SO or AC make that suggestion either.<br>
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> Bruce Tonkin<br>
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