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Dear Kavouss,<br>
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Many thanks for taking the time to provide such extensive comments
regarding the proposed document on scope and definitions. <br>
<br>
I believe you raise a number of valuable questions, which
unfortunately will probably not find answers in this particular
document as they pertain to further stages of our work. This is the
case for all the mentions of the need to clarify how we would
address an issue. <br>
<br>
I also note you suggested edits regarding some of the quotes of our
Charter. I am afraid this would require to go back to the Chartering
organisations, and therefore I find it difficult to address. This
includes the definition of accountability (from Netmundial
statement) as well as the definition of stakeholders (from the
European framework for quality management). <br>
<br>
Among the various comments you raise, I can reinforce the fact that
the lists of examples are for illustration only, and are not meant
to be comprehensive. <br>
<br>
The next version of the document will take your comments into
account. <br>
<br>
Best<br>
Mathieu<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2015-01-12 9:26 GMT+01:00 Mathieu Weill
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Colleagues,<br>
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This discussion about the "community" is quite relevant to
our group. May I suggest to turn these discussions into
proposed edits to the draft document regarding scope and
definitions ? Essentially within the section regarding
stakeholders.<br>
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I attach the documents once again.<br>
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Best<br>
Mathieu<br>
Le 10/01/2015 12:21, Bruce Tonkin a écrit :
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I have one question which continued to bother me
as everyone refers to "community"<br>
What is that magic term "community»
covers?<br>
Does it includes or embrace the entire
multistakeholders?<br>
As it was discussed at several occasion,
there is a defacto agreement that ,generally
speaking multistakeholder composed of Civil
Society, Private Sector, Technical Community
including academics, Governments<br>
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I think that is a good question, and probably worth
this group considering some definitions around that
topic.<br>
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For me personally, I tend to think of the terms in the
following way:<br>
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"ICANN Community" - this is the group of people that
participate in the various ICANN working groups via
email, phone, or websites, and attend ICANN
meetings. This group is made up of individuals
from GNSO constituencies and stakeholder groups, GAC,
SSAC, ALAC, RSSAC, ccTLD representatives, RIR
representatives etc. In my personal view, it is
multi-stakeholder in that it includes people from
Civil Society, Private Sector, Technical Community
including academics, Governments.<br>
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In addition to that there is a wider community of
people that are members of the various organizations
that are in turn members of the various groups that
comprise the ICANN community. As an example, I am a
member of the Internet Society of Australia (ISOC)
which is part of the Asia, Australasia and the Pacific
Islands Regional At-Large Organisation (APRALO) which
is part of At-large. ISOC in Australia may send a
representative to ICANN meetings. A business
might be a member of a chamber of commerce or business
association, which in turn could be a member of the
ICANN business constituency, and that chamber of
commerce or business association may send a
representative to an ICANN meeting as a member of the
ICANN community. I don't have any specific name for
this wider group of people and organizations.<br>
<br>
Then there is term "public" which is used within the
term "global public interest". In general, I
personally think of the public in this context as
Internet users. However you could also consider
public in this context to be all the people of the
world. Even people that don't directly use the
Internet as a communication mechanism are probably
affected by it in some way.<br>
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The fundamental responsibility of the Board of ICANN
is to exercise their judgment to act in what they
reasonably believe to be the best interests of the
global public interest, taking account of the
interests of the Internet community as a whole rather
than any individual group or interest. Its primary
feedback mechanism for determining the global public
interest is the "ICANN community" described above.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Bruce Tonkin<br>
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