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<div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Let me state formally that I do not recognize nor support Mr. Lisse’s complaint and that, although unnecessary in my opinion, I find Mr. Arasteh’s explanation quite sufficient.</div>
<div>May I call on Mr. Lisse to focus on our tasks at hand and suggest that, also content- and process wise, verbally and in writing, we all do our utmost to "<span style="line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Be conservative in what </span><span style="line-height: 18px;">we
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>vrijdag 16 januari 2015 09:34<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Eberhard Lisse <<a href="mailto:el@lisse.na">el@lisse.na</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>Lisse Eberhard <<a href="mailto:directors@omadhina.net">directors@omadhina.net</a>>, "<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Level of Discourse / Rules of Order<br>
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<div>Dear Doctor,</div>
<div>1.Thank you very much for your comment.</div>
<div>2.The connection problem stemmed from wrong information provided by hotel operator on telephone number to be dialed .After I indicated the name of the hotel, ICANN staff very kindly identified the correct number and I was connected after a long waiting
time and desperate efforts for situation that neither me nor the adobe connection praetor were to be criticized
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<div>3.,However,once connected , the communication quality was very poor and for most of the time I did not hear properly the discussion and had to repeat the points that I wished to raise.</div>
<div>If due to the circumstances mentioned I inadvertently disrupted the chair or due the poor quality of the communication had to speak loudly, I regret for that and inform that in no way was intentional or willful to do so.
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<div>4. I remember that we two have had some point of disagreement in our previous e-mail exchange. However, I do not think that such disagreements on points should result in the statement that you have made the tone and language of which is not friendly
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<div>Kavouss </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2015-01-15 23:46 GMT+01:00 Dr Eberhard W Lisse <span dir="ltr">
<<a href="mailto:el@lisse.na" target="_blank">el@lisse.na</a>></span>:<br>
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Dear Co-Chairs,<br>
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I wish to file a formal complaint about the disorder during the last<br>
telephone call and demand that this be dealt with forthwith.<br>
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After an apparent technical issue regarding Mr Arasteh, having being<br>
allegedly repeatedly phoned under an incorrect number, when he<br>
finally connected to the bridge he raised his voice and repeatedly<br>
interrupted the chair, while not having the floor/having been<br>
recognized.<br>
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In 25 year of dealing with this stuff I have never experienced an<br>
outburst like the one displayed by the ICG Liaison and Participant.<br>
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It is furthermore disturbing to me since the gentleman is a<br>
professional negotiator of 40 years experience and a GAC<br>
representative.<br>
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I also believe that such conduct is unacceptable under ICANN's rules<br>
of behavior but in any case it is not acceptable to me and I demand<br>
that steps are taken to prevent this from happening again.<br>
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Non withstanding the above I suppose an investigation into the<br>
allegations of him being unable to be contacted might be in order,<br>
and I for one look forward into find out what actually happened and<br>
what can be done to prevent this from happening again, if anything.<br>
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That said, I notice with alarming regularly issues with individuals<br>
being unable to access Adobe Connect and/or connecting to the call.<br>
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This is equally disturbing and hence I would appreciate if this<br>
could be looked into as well.<br>
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I for one am setting aside some time on TechDay on Monday of the<br>
ICANN meeting in Singapore, for an Adobe Workshop of sorts, where we<br>
could among other issues demonstrate how one can not only listen but<br>
also speak (directly) through the net, ie without requiring a dial<br>
in/out.<br>
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Then there is the possibility to use Skype's dial out which works,<br>
free of charge to US based toll free numbers.<br>
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Finally, I use a privately owned Asterix switchboard via a (Bria 3)<br>
soft-phone on my Mac to dial a UK based toll free number, which<br>
works extremely well with very little bandwidth from (the developing<br>
country) Namibia.<br>
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I have asked Bart Boswinkel a while back to look into setting up SIP<br>
access of sort, I could envisage an Asterix server which only allows<br>
the dialing of toll free numbers (related to ICANN work). I have<br>
not heard back from him, yet.<br>
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This is not meant as criticism, in particular not of the chairs, who<br>
have been bending over backwards in order to be inclusive.<br>
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greetings, el<br>
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