<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:epilisse@gmail.com" target="_blank">epilisse@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Won't happen as not al ccTLDs are or will remain members of ccNSO.</div><div><br></div><div>You can't have an internal, select group as members.</div><div><br></div><div>All or none, in my view.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Fair enough.... <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><br></div><div>How are ISOC, the Red Cross/Crescent (etc), Doctors without Borders, or similar Non-Profits set up?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>As far as i am know, ISOC is not a real membership organisation per see (in the sense of accountability to members).<br><br></div><div>Regards <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>el<br><br>-- <span></span><div><span style="font-size:13pt">Sent from </span><span style="font-size:13pt">Dr Lisse's iPhone 5s</span></div><div><br></div></div></font></span><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Jan 20, 2015, at 20:38, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Dear Jordan,</span><br><span></span><br><span>thanks for your looking into this in further detail.</span><br><span>My comment below:</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 19/01/2015 16:00, Jordan Carter wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>It would be straightforward and possible to make e.g. SO and AC chairs</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>effective "members" of ICANN (we define our own membership system). It</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>would be harder to allow individuals with some standing to join</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>stakeholder constituencies of voters and then allocate shares of total</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>votes across these in a fair way. It would be possible but mad to have</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>a "one member one vote" system where a ccTLD manager had the same say</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>as an Internet user.</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>Isn't what you're describing ICANN version 1, with thousands of</span><br><span>individual voters? I agree that did not work and will not work today</span><br><span>either. However, I would also really urge caution in turning ICANN into</span><br><span>a purely membership organisation that allocates shares of total votes</span><br><span>according to size of organisational members. I have seen membership</span><br><span>organisations being captured by large players buying out smaller players</span><br><span>- the endgame being $$$ controlling the organisation and *not* the</span><br><span>public interest.</span><br><span>Kind regards,</span><br><span></span><br><span>Olivier</span><br><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD</span><br><span><a href="http://www.gih.com/ocl.html" target="_blank">http://www.gih.com/ocl.html</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" target="_blank">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a></span><br><span><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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