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    Additionally, borrowing from a another professional field: whenever
    contemplating surgery, get a second opinion.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22-Jan-15 12:00, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I agree with Becky, Eberhard, Phil, Paul and David,
        for all their reasons and more.  If ICANN legal had all the
        expertise necessary, it would be a bad idea, due to lack of
        independence, ethical obligations to their client, etc.  And
        even if they are reasonably well-informed on California
        non-profit law, that is necessary but not sufficient for the
        task at hand.  Someone with considerable expertise and
        experience in corporate governance (especially non-profit) and
        corporate structuring in a variety of contexts (a "big brain,"
        so to speak) is also necessary.
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        <div>(Notably, when ICANN has needed significant advice in this
          area in the past, it is my impression that they have turned to
          the international mega firm of Jones Day (the biggest thing to
          come out of Cleveland, Ohio since  <br>
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            <div>Greg Shatan</div>
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                            <p><b><span>Gregory S. Shatan</span><span> </span></b></p>
                            <p><span>Partner</span><span> |</span><b><span> </span></b><b><span>Abelman
                                  Frayne &amp; Schwab</span></b></p>
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                            <p><b><span>666 Third Avenue </span></b><b><span>|</span></b><b><span>
                                  New York, NY 10017-5621</span></b><span></span></p>
                            <p><b><span>Direct</span></b><span>  </span><span><a
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                            <p><b>ICANN-related: <a
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:59 AM,
                Dr Eberhard Lisse <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                    target="_blank">el@lisse.na</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote">Eric,<br>
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                  I was not looking at it from that perspective, but
                  Becky make sense,<br>
                  ie if we get an opinion that is contrary to what ICANN
                  has<br>
                  previously asserted in court it would put ICANN in a
                  difficult<br>
                  position.<br>
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                  Almost as much as their Counsel estopping ICANN on
                  anything not yet<br>
                  litigated.<br>
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                  So, we need "unconflicted" Counsel.<br>
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                    On 2015-01-22 16:49, Burr, Becky wrote:<br>
                    &gt; Eric, I have great respect for the ICANN legal
                    staff, but Iım not<br>
                    &gt; aware that anyone on staff possesses legal
                    expertise on<br>
                    &gt; international law and/or California
                    not-for-profit law.  More that<br>
                    &gt; that, we know that ICANN has asserted various
                    limitations on some<br>
                    &gt; of the accountability mechanisms based on the
                    ³fiduciary duty²<br>
                    &gt; of Board members to the corporation.  Whether
                    the ideas in<br>
                    &gt; question are good or bad, there is some
                    skepticism - and a<br>
                    &gt; conclusion by the Berkman Center during the
                    first ATRT review that<br>
                    &gt; additional legal research was needed, about the
                    legal positions<br>
                    &gt; asserted by ICANNıs legal staff and its outside
                    counsel.  Given<br>
                    &gt; the above, and ethical obligation of counsel to
                    defend the views<br>
                    &gt; of its client vigorously, I disagree with your
                    view that ICANNıs<br>
                    &gt; counsel is well situated to provide the legal
                    analysis we need.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; J. Beckwith Burr<br>
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