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I am a firm believer in making as few changes as necessary. Although
membership may well be the best way to go, getting the same effect from a
less onerous change may be preferable.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 27/01/2015 02:33 PM, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Jonathan, <br><br>
I agree that delegates would not (or need not) be functionally different
from members. It would be <i>structurally </i>different, however,
which may resolve certain concerns that have arisen regarding
"joining" ICANN, turning ICANN into a membership organization,
etc.<br><br>
Greg<br><br>
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Jonathan Zuck
<<a href="mailto:JZuck@actonline.org">JZuck@actonline.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<dd>Definitely something to look into. I’m not sure that delegates
would functionally be too much different from members, though, and would
require the same tough questions be answered as to powers. Meanwhile, I
had my in-house counsel look into the questions that have been raised
about membership and the preliminary results are encouraging. Started a
new thread with it.<br><br>
<dd>Jonathan<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>From:</b>
<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">
accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" eudora="autourl">
mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of
</b>Carlos Raul Gutierrez<br>
<dd>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 27, 2015 12:41 PM<br>
<dd>To:</b> Greg Shatan<br>
<dd>Cc:</b>
<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">
accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
<dd>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] "Delegates": A Possible
Alternative to Members<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>I think this is an interesting avenue, as some Board members, the
ones who have NOT been nominated by the NomCom, have been
"delegated" by its respective constituencies.<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Furthermore as Roelof Meijer suggested earlier on, the Board should
be separated between the NomCom delegates as ExecBoard, while the
"Delegates" could constitute a Supervisory Board in the
European style. Under this layered structure, we could develop the so
much needed Internal</u></b> system of Review and Redress of the
(exec)Board decisions, well under control of the
constituencies.......<br><br>
<br>
<dd>Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez<br>
<dd>ISOC Costa Rica Chapter<br>
<dd>skype carlos.raulg<br>
<dd><a href="tel:%2B506%208837%207176">+506 8837 7176</a>
(New Phone number!!!!)<br>
<dd>________<br>
<dd>Apartado 1571-1000<br>
<dd>COSTA RICA<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>2015-01-27 10:03 GMT-06:00 Greg Shatan
<<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>
>:<br>
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<dd>California non-profit law states that a non-profit corporation may
have delegates, who would have some or all of the powers of
members. It is my understanding that these delegates would not be
"statutory" members of the organization (and that the
organization would not be a "membership" non-profit).<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>It is possible that using delegates could solve some of the issues
raised about members and the concept of "membership." I
have not read beyond the statute itself, so consider this only a rough
starting point (and certainly not "legal advice").<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Here is the statutory language, from Cal. Corp. Code §5152:<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd><pre>5152. A corporation may provide in its bylaws for
delegates having</pre><br><br>
<dd><pre>some or all of the authority of members. Where delegates are
provided</pre><br><br>
<dd><pre>for, the bylaws shall set forth delegates' terms of office,
any</pre><br><br>
<dd><pre>reasonable method for delegates' selection and removal, and
any</pre><br><br>
<dd><pre>reasonable method for calling, noticing and holding meetings
of</pre><br><br>
<dd><pre>delegates and may set forth the manner in which delegates may
act by</pre><br><br>
<dd><pre>written ballot similar to Section 5513 for written ballot of
members.</pre><br><br>
<dd><pre>Delegates may only act personally at a meeting or by written
ballot</pre><br><br>
<dd><pre>and may not act by proxy. Delegates may be given a name other
than</pre><br>
<dd><pre>"delegates."</pre><br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Greg Shatan<br><br>
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