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My preference is that the Members would be the AC/SOs themselves. If any
really tough decision are to be made (moving IANA, recalling Board
members, etc), that should be done by the orgs themselves and not
representatives of them.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 27/01/2015 08:32 PM, Drazek, Keith wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi Rudolph,<br><br>
In this context, ICANN's "shareholders" or "members"
would be the elected or appointed Chairs of the existing ICANN
community's bottom-up, consensus-based, multi-stakeholder structures. If
those Chairs aren't ethical, then they could and should be replaced by
their respective groups. I believe this would give us a built-in and
permanent accountability loop rooted in the multi-stakeholder system,
which is precisely what NTIA has asked for. <br><br>
Regards,<br>
Keith<br><br>
Sent from my iPhone<br><br>
On Jan 27, 2015, at 6:50 PM, "Rudolph Daniel"
<<a href="mailto:rudi.daniel@gmail.com">rudi.daniel@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">No nuance missing Jonathan.
:)<br>
Likening to shareholders reminded me that shareholders are not always
ethical in their pursuit of accountability.<br>
RD<br><br>
On Jan 27, 2015 6:58 PM, "Jonathan Zuck"
<<a href="mailto:JZuck@actonline.org">JZuck@actonline.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hmmm. I guess “we” is the community that have reached a fairly solid
consensus that new accountability mechanisms need to be put in place at
ICANN. And the role “we” seek them to play is exactly what EBW outlined
below as aspirational. The issue is structural reform that empowers the
community to hold the board of ICANN accountable going forward. Likening
it to “shareholder” accountability is not about turning ICANN into a
commercial organization, merely addressing concerns surrounding
liability. What nuance am I missing here?<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
> From: Rudolph Daniel
[<a href="mailto:rudi.daniel@gmail.com" eudora="autourl">
mailto:rudi.daniel@gmail.com</a>] <br>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:55 PM<br>
> To: Jonathan Zuck<br>
> Cc: Accountability Cross Community; Eric Brunner-Williams<br>
> Subject: RE: [CCWG-ACCT] got some lawyerly answers on membership
structure<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
> Not sure I get who 'we' is and 'seek them to play' ?
<br>
> RD<br>
><br>
> On Jan 27, 2015 6:44 PM, "Jonathan Zuck"
<<a href="mailto:JZuck@actonline.org">JZuck@actonline.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Agree but the point of accountability mechanisms is to ensure
the board continues to play the role we seek them to play.<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> From:
<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">
accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" eudora="autourl">
mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of
Rudolph Daniel<br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:38 PM<br>
>> To: Eric Brunner-Williams<br>
>> Cc: Accountability Cross Community<br>
>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] got some lawyerly answers on membership
structure<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> I would think, and certainly it has been suggested
elsewhere that public accountably be less of the shareholder kind and
more of the ethical variety.<br>
>> RD<br>
>><br>
>> On Jan 27, 2015 3:04 PM, "Eric Brunner-Williams"
<<a href="mailto:ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net">ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net</a>
> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> All,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I would not like to see the Board's duty as stewards of the
public trust -- exercising reasonable care, inquisitive, ... the
strictest standard of duty of care in American law -- reduced to the
pursuit of quarterly profits maximization prevalent in for-profit
Boards.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> ICANN’s Board of Directors would become accountable to
the community, in much the same way that the Boards of publicly-traded
companies are ultimately accountable to their shareholders.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I suggest our standards are, by initial design, higher than
the likeness proposed.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Eric Brunner-Williams<br>
>>> Eugene, Oregon<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
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