<div dir="ltr">I don&#39;t like this line about the Reconsideration Committee not being &quot;understood&quot;, Chris.<div><br></div><div>ICANN&#39;s staff and Board have developed the rules by which the committee acts and the way in which it decides to apply those rules. Those rules have also changed over time. </div><div><br></div><div>This is part of the problem - ICANN corporate lives within its own world half the time. I can recall several conversations I had with ICANN&#39;s general counsel when on staff where he presented me with an entirely different perspective on critical matters to the one that I and much of the community felt existed. </div><div><br></div><div>There is an internal body of belief that stands in stark contrast to the outside view. And that body of belief is consciously shielded.</div><div><br></div><div>If ICANN wants the Reconsideration Committee to stop being misunderstood, it should rename it the &quot;Policy Process Double-checking Committee&quot;.</div><div><br></div><div>Or, alternatively, and preferably, changing the functioning of the committee to actually &quot;reconsider&quot; decisions. And include people other than Board members (one of the accountability recommendations made many years ago but never implemented).</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Kieren</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Chris Disspain <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ceo@auda.org.au" target="_blank">ceo@auda.org.au</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="font-family:&#39;Verdana&#39;;font-size:13px;color:rgb(102,102,102)">Agree Avri. And whilst the reconsideration request process is widely pilloried it does, in fact, provide a level of accountability. It may not be understood, it may not provide the sort of or level of accountability that is desirable but, I for one, would want it to be improved/expanded rather than see it disappear as in a [very] narrow band of cases it does work.<div><br><div>
<p><br></p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Chris</p>


</div><div><div class="h5">
<br><div><div>On 30 Jan 2015, at 08:34 , Avri Doria &lt;<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">
  
    
  
  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#330033">
    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    I think Zero is a wee bit hyperbolic.<br>
    <br>
    I believe that the AOC does provide for accountability in the ATRT
    reviews.<br>
    <br>
    We also vote on some Board seats and people have lost their seats. 
    <br>
    Too slow and not as good as a recall procedure, but accountabilty.<br>
    <br>
    Nomcom also does not always renew terms, <br>
    even if the people want them too.  <br>
    That is also accountability.<br>
    <br>
    The IRT can also provide accountability. <br>
    and does.<br>
    <br>
    It is true none of these bind the board, <br>
    and that needs fixing, <br>
    but I strongly disagree with the statement that there is no
    accountability.<br>
    <br>
    Sure, none are as stringent as taking out <br>
    and executing at dawn (I&#39;ve been catching up on  Marco Polo on
    Netflix) <br>
    but they are accountability, <br>
    though of a lesser degree.<br>
    <br>
    avri<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 29-Jan-15 14:14, Jonathan Zuck
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      
      <div><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Kieren,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>That hard truth here is that while we
            endeavor to list existing “accountability” mechanisms, there
            are, in fact, none. It’s a complete red herring to explore
            them as part of this process. There are plenty of
            opportunities to “vent” but there are, in fact, ZERO
            accountability mechanisms in place, with the exception often
            cited but ridiculous “elect a different board.” No one wants
            to hear that but it’s the truth. Our goal here, in the near
            term is essentially to create ONE mechanism of
            accountability in place, perhaps two. It is my sincere
            belief that the presence of even a
            <i>single</i> accountability mechanism will go a long way to
            change the culture inside ICANN because the net result will
            be to turn the light back on the community to reach
            consensus. This is a GROSS oversimplification, not meant to
            inspire nit picking but a return to the task at hand which
            is to create a framework for reform which, if the community
            remains motivated, will allow major cultural changes to take
            place.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>JZ</span></p><div><span> </span><br></div><div><span> </span><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span> Kieren
            McCarthy [<a href="mailto:kierenmccarthy@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:kierenmccarthy@gmail.com</a>]
            <br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:57 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> McAuley, David<br>
            <b>Cc:</b> Jonathan Zuck; Accountability Cross Community<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] The big test of effective
            accountability</span></p><div> <br></div>
        <div><p class="MsoNormal">One more thing from me and then I&#39;ll shut
            up.</p>
          <div><div> <br></div>
          </div>
          <div><p class="MsoNormal">I&#39;d be interested to hear from people
              that have actually gone through the various accountability
              mechanisms what they thought of the experience. </p>
          </div>
          <div><div> <br></div>
          </div>
          <div><p class="MsoNormal">For example:</p>
          </div>
          <div><div> <br></div>
          </div>
          <div><p class="MsoNormal">* Were you happy with the process?</p>
          </div>
          <div><p class="MsoNormal">* Were you happy with the outcome?</p>
          </div>
          <div><p class="MsoNormal">* Did you feel your points were
              understand and considered?</p>
          </div>
          <div><p class="MsoNormal">* What would have improved the process
              for you?</p>
          </div>
          <div><p class="MsoNormal">* If you lost, why did you not progress
              further in the appeal process?</p>
          </div>
          <div><div> <br></div>
          </div>
          <div><div> <br></div>
          </div>
          <div><p class="MsoNormal">This kind of feedback should be being
              done by ICANN itself but I&#39;m willing to bet it hasn&#39;t
              been. It&#39;s also not that hard to do: their names are
              publicly available. ICANN has all their contact details. I
              bet many of them would be happy to talk.</p>
          </div>
          <div><div> <br></div>
          </div>
          <div><div> <br></div>
          </div>
          <div><div> <br></div>
          </div>
          <div><p class="MsoNormal">Kieren</p>
          </div>
          <div><div> <br></div>
          </div>
          <div><div> <br></div>
          </div>
          <div><div> <br></div>
          </div>
        </div>
        <div><div> <br></div>
          <div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:58 AM,
              McAuley, David &lt;<a href="mailto:dmcauley@verisign.com" target="_blank">dmcauley@verisign.com</a>&gt;
              wrote:</p>
            <blockquote>
              <div>
                <div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Kieran,</p><div> <br></div><p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for this human-element
                    discussion, most interesting and helpful for me.
                  </p><div> <br></div><p class="MsoNormal">I differ with one remark you made
                    in the last post: “<i>yes, the Board can be
                      overruled but only on issues of process</i>.”</p><div> <br></div><p class="MsoNormal">It’s actually not all that
                    positive, if I have things correctly concerning
                    accountability measures within the ICANN environment
                    (not addressing courts here).</p><div> <br></div><p class="MsoNormal">At present the board can be
                    overruled in reconsideration requests – but only by
                    the board itself on, as you say, process issues.
                    This probably does not meet any realistic, objective
                    accountability standard. </p><div> <br></div><p class="MsoNormal">In IRP before independent panels,
                    the board can take the panel’s decision or leave it
                    – it is nothing more than a recommendation, again on
                    process-based issues.</p><div> <br></div><p class="MsoNormal">The IRP panel in the
                    DotConnectAfrica (DCA) Trust case ruled that it
                    could bind ICANN in a procedural ruling this past
                    year, but ICANN’s subsequent arguments before the
                    same panel as well as other IRP panels indicate that
                    it does not accept that decision. It could be
                    interesting to see what ICANN does with the eventual
                    final ruling in the case, depending on whether the
                    panel rules in DCA’s favor. .
                  </p><div> <br></div><p class="MsoNormal">David McAuley</p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span>
                      <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">
                        accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>
                      [mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                      <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kieren McCarthy<br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:17 AM<br>
                      <b>To:</b> Jonathan Zuck</span></p>
                  <div>
                    <div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                        <b>Cc:</b> Accountability Cross Community<br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] The big test of
                        effective accountability</p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div><div> <br></div><p class="MsoNormal">Quick thoughts on this: </p>
                      <div><div> <br></div>
                      </div>
                      <div><p class="MsoNormal">Yes, what the staff and
                          Board end up doing is partly the community&#39;s
                          fault.</p>
                      </div>
                      <div><div> <br></div>
                      </div>
                      <div><p class="MsoNormal">Where I do place fault is
                          in both continuing to do so, and failing to
                          make changes despite clear signs that it is
                          not working effectively and is even damaging
                          trust.</p>
                      </div>
                      <div><div> <br></div>
                      </div>
                      <div><p class="MsoNormal">The Board seem confused and
                          frustrated that they continue to be yelled at.
                          The community can&#39;t believe that the Board
                          still hasn&#39;t heard them. I think the gap is
                          the lack of human judgement and the priority
                          of process and legal argument.</p>
                      </div>
                      <div><div> <br></div>
                      </div>
                      <div><p class="MsoNormal">I am a big fan of solid
                          changes over long discourse. But what I
                          started to see on this group was a tendency
                          toward process solutions and legal-style
                          decision making.</p>
                      </div>
                      <div><div> <br></div>
                      </div>
                      <div><p class="MsoNormal">Just one example: yes, the
                          Board can be overruled but only on issues of
                          process. </p>
                      </div>
                      <div><div> <br></div>
                      </div>
                      <div><p class="MsoNormal">This just creates one more
                          layer and process that ICANN will hold up as
                          accountability and the community will be
                          completely dissatisfied with.</p>
                      </div>
                      <div><div> <br></div>
                      </div>
                      <div><p class="MsoNormal">ICANN&#39;s staff will defend
                          to the hilt the Board&#39;s initial decision,
                          creating a fight and tension, limiting
                          discussion and sharing of information,
                          increasing distrust, reinforcing the barrier
                          between Corporate and community. </p>
                      </div>
                      <div><div> <br></div>
                      </div>
                      <div><p class="MsoNormal">And this is the big change
                          we introduce this time around.</p>
                      </div>
                      <div><div> <br></div>
                      </div>
                      <div><p class="MsoNormal">My fear is that unless we
                          break that habit, there will be another 10
                          years of dissatisfaction and another group
                          like this one trying again to bring
                          &#39;accountability&#39; in 2025.</p>
                      </div>
                      <div><div> <br></div>
                      </div>
                      <div><div> <br></div>
                      </div>
                      <div><p class="MsoNormal">Kieren</p>
                      </div>
                      <div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                          -<br>
                          [sent through phone]</p>
                      </div><div> <br></div>
                      <div><p>On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Jonathan
                          Zuck &lt;<a href="mailto:JZuck@actonline.org" target="_blank">JZuck@actonline.org</a>&gt;
                          wrote:</p>
                        <blockquote>
                          <div>
                            <div><p class="MsoNormal"><span>I’m somewhat
                                  hesitant to speak up given Malcolm’s
                                  excellent treatise but a few things
                                  spring to mind. The first and simplest
                                  is that process still provides a
                                  structure the re-humanization you
                                  seek. In a large organization if there
                                  isn’t a way to trigger the group
                                  “rethinking” an issue, it will never
                                  happen.  I believe that while this
                                  conversation is emotionally rewarding,
                                  we need to be very careful to stay
                                  inside our remit to come up with some
                                  very specific recommendations for
                                  increasing accountability (in a legal
                                  sense) to replace the somewhat “legal”
                                  accountability that exists today so my
                                  first inclination is to table this
                                  discussion and get back to work.</span></p><div><span> </span><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span>My second
                                  inclination is to dive in &lt;g&gt;
                                  and to come to the defense of the
                                  board and ICANN staff a little bit.
                                  The buzzing in the back of my head for
                                  the past year or so is that the
                                  “community” is partially to blame for
                                  the environment in which we find
                                  ourselves.  ICANN is afraid of
                                  litigation because we are litigious.
                                  The board does our job for us often
                                  because we have failed to do it
                                  ourselves.</span></p><div><span> </span><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span>If the result
                                  of a policy development process is a
                                  failure to find consensus, to
                                  compromise, to be “human” as you
                                  suggest  Kieren, the board is faced
                                  with the unenviable task of playing
                                  Solomon because the community have
                                  essentially abdicated our
                                  responsibility.  The boards entire job
                                  is supposed to ONLY be about process
                                  and whether we’ve followed it.
                                  Instead, we present the board with
                                  unfinished work, expect them to “rule”
                                  on it and threaten to sue if we don’t
                                  get our way. If the board is guilty of
                                  anything in this context, it is their
                                  willingness to accept this challenge,
                                  which I suggest is dehumanizing
                                  because, like Solomon, they are not in
                                  the best position to find a solution
                                  and often create arbitrary compromise
                                  which is the number one characteristic
                                  of an arbitration environment. More
                                  often than not, the board should
                                  simply reject the unfinished work and
                                  send it back to the community to get
                                  it done right. So I think there’s a
                                  lot to Kieren’s concern but I think
                                  the community plays a significant role
                                  in the problem and must therefore play
                                  a significant role in the solution and
                                  I’m ready for us to tackle it.</span></p><div><span> </span><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span>All that said,
                                  it’s not really relevant to the task
                                  at hand. Obviously this whole
                                  situation has us “<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omphaloskepsis" target="_blank">navel gazing</a>,”
                                  and that’s not all bad but we do have
                                  a very specific task to accomplish in
                                  the here and now and we would do well
                                  to focus on that alone, at least for
                                  the time being.</span></p><div><span> </span><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span>My two cents</span></p><div><span> </span><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Jonathan</span></p><div><span> </span><br></div><div><span> </span><br></div><div><span> </span><br></div><div><span> </span><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span>
                                  <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">
accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kieren McCarthy<br>
                                  <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 29,
                                  2015 9:39 AM<br>
                                  <b>To:</b> Malcolm Hutty<br>
                                  <b>Cc:</b> Accountability Cross
                                  Community<br>
                                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] The
                                  big test of effective accountability</span></p><div> <br></div><p class="MsoNormal">Like this. Excellent
                                food for thought. </p>
                              <div><div> <br></div>
                              </div>
                              <div><p class="MsoNormal">Will dig out
                                  Steve&#39;s mission email - had completely
                                  missed it. You have the email header
                                  handy?</p>
                                <div><div> <br></div>
                                </div>
                                <div><div> <br></div>
                                </div>
                                <div><p class="MsoNormal">Kieren</p>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                  -<br>
                                  [sent through phone]</p>
                              </div><div> <br></div>
                              <div><p>On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:00 AM,
                                  Malcolm Hutty &lt;<a href="mailto:malcolm@linx.net" target="_blank">malcolm@linx.net</a>&gt;
                                  wrote:</p>
                                <blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                    <br>
                                    On 29/01/2015 11:45, Bruce Tonkin
                                    wrote: <br>
                                    &gt; In terms of reviewing the new
                                    gTLD program <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Kieren may correct me, but I read
                                    his essay as being about more than <br>
                                    just the gTLD program alone, albeit
                                    that that was the example given. I <br>
                                    read it as a general complaint that
                                    ICANN tends to be to formalistic, <br>
                                    and loses sight of the substance of
                                    the issue, not only in gTLD <br>
                                    applications, but often. And I think
                                    that he&#39;s far from alone in that <br>
                                    view, especially amongst those who
                                    engage with ICANN peripherally
                                    rather <br>
                                    than intensively. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    &gt; I compare this to a jury
                                    process in the legal system. I don’t
                                    think <br>
                                    &gt; you can just ask for another
                                    jury to hear the case when the first
                                    <br>
                                    &gt; jury finds against you. There
                                    needs to be some basis for the
                                    appeal <br>
                                    &gt; other than that you disagree
                                    with the initial finding. <br>
                                    [...] <br>
                                    &gt; So careful work is needed to
                                    ensure that we have a process that <br>
                                    &gt; ensures independent reviews of
                                    decisions, and also appropriate <br>
                                    &gt; criteria to initiate a review
                                    of a decision. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    There I think you get to the heart
                                    of the matter. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Kieren&#39;s complaint about formalism
                                    is interesting insofar as it goes, <br>
                                    and I think it is a very useful
                                    contribution, but it is only
                                    identifies <br>
                                    a problem, it doesn&#39;t analyse it or
                                    propose a solution. I would like to
                                    <br>
                                    try to work from where Kieren left
                                    off. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Kieren, you&#39;re a journalist. You
                                    live and breathe five-Ws and an H. <br>
                                    Let&#39;s apply that here. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    WHAT&#39;s the problem? (Excessive legal
                                    formalism, resulting in loss of <br>
                                    sight of the substance of the
                                    question). <br>
                                    <br>
                                    WHY do we have that problem? <br>
                                    <br>
                                    WHO caused it and who can address
                                    that? <br>
                                    <br>
                                    HOW should it be addressed? <br>
                                    <br>
                                    (OK, I&#39;m leaving out &quot;when&quot;. Cut me
                                    some slack.) <br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    WHY do we have the excessive
                                    legalistic formalism Kieren
                                    complains about? <br>
                                    <br>
                                    To some extent, this is
                                    characteristic of all large
                                    bureaucracies. They <br>
                                    are instinctively defensive, and any
                                    individual within them wants to <br>
                                    show that they discharged their own
                                    responsibilities properly even - <br>
                                    perhaps especially - when they
                                    don&#39;t, as an individual, necessarily
                                    <br>
                                    agree personally with the
                                    organisation position. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    But Kieren suggests that ICANN is
                                    particularly susceptible to this <br>
                                    tendency, and I think I agree. An
                                    organisation with a highly empowered
                                    <br>
                                    single leader (think Apple under
                                    Steve Jobs) can cut through process
                                    <br>
                                    easily. I imagine an early
                                    conversation at Apple going like
                                    this: <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Product Manager: We assembled focus
                                    groups in all our major target <br>
                                    markets to identify the key
                                    characteristics of a <br>
                                    revolutionary, magical new phone. We
                                    planted the best <br>
                                    UI theorists in those groups, to
                                    guide them towards <br>
                                    characteristics and away from mere
                                    features. We then <br>
                                    tested the output with surveys from
                                    the best polling <br>
                                    companies, scientifically designed
                                    to ensure all user <br>
                                    groups had balanced representation.
                                    Using their <br>
                                    answers we ranked and prioritised
                                    development goals. <br>
                                    We hired the best and brightest
                                    designers to deliver <br>
                                    against that design brief, and I
                                    proudly present, <br>
                                    the You-Phone. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Steve Jobs: The user experience
                                    sucks and it feels like it was <br>
                                    designed by a committee. Go back and
                                    start again. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Would we want ICANN to work like
                                    this? No! We&#39;d be rightly terrified
                                    of <br>
                                    leaving that much power in one
                                    person&#39;s hands. We want ICANN to be
                                    run <br>
                                    by the community, with the Board
                                    acting as an arm of the community <br>
                                    conducting executive oversight, not
                                    ruled by any single Global King of
                                    DNS. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    So we create structures designed to
                                    ensure that everybody&#39;s voice is <br>
                                    heard and that everybody&#39;s interests
                                    are taken into account, that <br>
                                    competing positions are balanced as
                                    fairly as it is possible to be, and
                                    <br>
                                    that decisions are demonstrably
                                    rationally arrived at on the basis
                                    of <br>
                                    previously agreed consensus policy.
                                    And we create more structures to <br>
                                    appeal cases to on the basis that
                                    any of those things failed in this <br>
                                    instance. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    And we end up with the legalistic
                                    formalism of which Kieren speaks. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Why? <br>
                                    <br>
                                    I suggest that it is because we have
                                    such a diverse community, and so <br>
                                    the only thing we agree on is the
                                    process criteria. We agree that <br>
                                    everybody should be heard. We agree
                                    that there should be periods of <br>
                                    public comment, and then further
                                    periods of reply comment. We agree
                                    that <br>
                                    policy should require consensus
                                    support. But we&#39;re so anxious that
                                    that <br>
                                    might be the only thing we agree on
                                    that we stop there. And so when a <br>
                                    decision looks bad, the only thing
                                    we have to fall back on is an appeal
                                    <br>
                                    to process. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    And mostly the process was followed
                                    (at least in a narrow sense) so it&#39;s
                                    <br>
                                    very hard to reverse the decision,
                                    even if you might like to (as Bruce
                                    <br>
                                    has described). And the dissatisfied
                                    party becomes embroiled in an <br>
                                    increasingly embittered proxy fight
                                    with an increasingly defensive <br>
                                    bureaucracy, when everybody knows
                                    that the gravamen of the complaint <br>
                                    isn&#39;t really about process at all,
                                    it is, as Kieren says, about the <br>
                                    substance. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Some would say this means we need to
                                    &quot;unshackle&quot; the Board, to give them
                                    <br>
                                    a wide-ranging and broad discretion
                                    to &quot;do the right thing&quot;, or <br>
                                    sometimes &quot;to take decision based in
                                    the public interest&quot;. Removing or <br>
                                    reducing external constraints would
                                    enable &quot;effective leadership&quot; and <br>
                                    give the Board &quot;flexibility to
                                    respond to a changing world&quot; without
                                    <br>
                                    being &quot;buried in legal challenges&quot;.
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    I consider such an approach to be a
                                    trap. Those arguments are the same <br>
                                    arguments one would make if an
                                    avowed enemy of community
                                    accountability. <br>
                                    Following such recommendations will
                                    lead inevitably to a Board with a <br>
                                    top-down, paternalistic view of
                                    governing the community at best, if
                                    not <br>
                                    something even worse. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Instead, let us look to other I*
                                    communities, which do not seem to
                                    have <br>
                                    the same problem, to see how the
                                    IETF and the RIRs maintain genuine <br>
                                    bottom-up community governance, and
                                    at the same time remain focused on <br>
                                    the substance. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Let me tell a story about how one of
                                    the RIRs recently dealt with a <br>
                                    potentially difficult problem. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Towards the end of last year, on the
                                    mailing list for the RIPE NCC, a <br>
                                    Ukrainian who seemed to be a
                                    partisan of the government in Kiev,
                                    and an <br>
                                    opponent of the regime in Crimea and
                                    Donetsk, raised a point about the <br>
                                    rules. RIPE NCC rules say that
                                    organisations applying from IP
                                    addresses <br>
                                    must supply government issued ID, he
                                    said. Why does the RIPE NCC <br>
                                    continue to serve users in Crimea?
                                    Does the RIPE NCC accept the
                                    validity <br>
                                    of the Donetsk regime? On what basis
                                    and with what justification? Surely
                                    <br>
                                    the only proper course is for the
                                    RIPE NCC to cease to support <br>
                                    organisations in Crimea until the
                                    legitimately recognised government
                                    of <br>
                                    Ukraine is restored in the region (I
                                    am using his voice, you understand,
                                    <br>
                                    not my own, but this is a
                                    paraphrase, not a direct quote). <br>
                                    <br>
                                    The RIPE community immediately saw
                                    this intervention for what it was in
                                    <br>
                                    substance: an attempt to embroil the
                                    RIPE NCC in the ongoing regional <br>
                                    conflict, on the side to which he
                                    was partisan. It was not really a <br>
                                    genuine enquiry about the rules, it
                                    was an attempt to force a legalistic
                                    <br>
                                    interpretation that would subvert
                                    their intended substance. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    And the RIPE community responded
                                    swiftly, vocally, and overwhelmingly
                                    of <br>
                                    one view. The mission of RIPE NCC is
                                    to support users by helping to <br>
                                    coordinate the distribution of IP
                                    addresses to those that need them. <br>
                                    Networks in Crimea need IP
                                    addresses. This does not change
                                    because the <br>
                                    legitimacy of the claimed government
                                    with effective control of the <br>
                                    region is disputed. Many members of
                                    the RIPE Community had considerable
                                    <br>
                                    sympathy with the Ukrainian
                                    partisan, and deep personal
                                    opposition to <br>
                                    Russian intervention in Eastern
                                    Ukraine. Nonetheless, they agreed on
                                    one <br>
                                    thing: the geopolitics of the
                                    Ukraine is not the responsibility of
                                    the <br>
                                    RIPE NCC. The rule requiring
                                    government issued ID is there to
                                    support <br>
                                    RIPE NCC&#39;s mission to coordination
                                    IP address distribution so that <br>
                                    networks are allocated the address
                                    space they require (so that RIPE NCC
                                    <br>
                                    can identify the entities to which
                                    it has made allocations); to apply <br>
                                    the same rule to prevent IP address
                                    block allocation would be to subvert
                                    <br>
                                    the mission. While there is no
                                    universally recognised government in
                                    <br>
                                    Eastern Ukraine, the RIPE NCC should
                                    accept such ID from entities in <br>
                                    that area as they are reasonably
                                    able to provide. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    This story, I think, exemplifies the
                                    ability to cut to the substance of <br>
                                    the issue that Kieren seeks. How is
                                    it arrived at? Not by the <br>
                                    introduction of any strong central
                                    leader: the NCC staff and Board was
                                    <br>
                                    almost silent while this discussion
                                    played out amongst the community. <br>
                                    It was arrived at because the
                                    community had a strongly unified
                                    sense of <br>
                                    its own limited mission (to support
                                    the distribution of IP addresses to
                                    <br>
                                    those that need them, through
                                    coordinated allocation policies) and
                                    the <br>
                                    members of that community were
                                    overwhelmingly willing to set aside
                                    their <br>
                                    own views on a matter outside the
                                    scope of that mission when it was <br>
                                    suggested that some other reasoning
                                    requires an effect fundamentally <br>
                                    contrary to the mission. We will not
                                    have an argument about whether RIPE
                                    <br>
                                    NCC should act to /limit/ the
                                    allocation of IP addresses to
                                    entities in <br>
                                    Crimea, not even dressed in the coat
                                    of a rules interpretation. Maybe <br>
                                    action should be taken against the
                                    regime in Crimea - but not by RIPE <br>
                                    NCC. RIPE NCC will discharge its own
                                    mission, and leave the geopolitics <br>
                                    to others. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Is this not the same culture we want
                                    to inculcate in ICANN? <br>
                                    <br>
                                    I believe that story exemplifies the
                                    strength of the RIRs, and describes
                                    <br>
                                    exactly what we want from ICANN too.
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    And it is very far from the ICANN
                                    Kieren describes. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    WHO can bring this change about? <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Only us. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    When we look to Kieren&#39;s complaint,
                                    and see how far short ICANN falls of
                                    <br>
                                    the strong culture shows by the RIRs
                                    and the IETF, the &quot;fault&quot; lies with
                                    <br>
                                    us, the community. We don&#39;t *want*
                                    the Board, or the CEO, or the staff
                                    <br>
                                    to come up with a dramatically
                                    developed version of the ICANN
                                    Mission <br>
                                    that will then overrule existing
                                    processes and policies. <br>
                                    The Mission must be developed by,
                                    and founded in, the community
                                    itself. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    What we need is for the community to
                                    develop a much clearer idea of the <br>
                                    Mission, and an exposition of what
                                    that means and how it is to be <br>
                                    applied. Then all the accountability
                                    structures we create, the Review <br>
                                    Boards and Reconsideration Panels
                                    and Ombudsmen and the rest, they
                                    will <br>
                                    have a proper standard for review.
                                    Not a sterile standard that looks <br>
                                    only to bare process, but one that
                                    asks &quot;Is this consistent with the <br>
                                    fundamental mission?&quot; <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Consider how this might work in
                                    practice. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    For .gay, there are many objections
                                    one might make. One might say the <br>
                                    proposed registrar was not suitable
                                    - but that should only lead to the <br>
                                    selection of an alternative, or the
                                    imposition of tighter control, not <br>
                                    to refusal to delegate. If you&#39;re
                                    not confident in the registrar you <br>
                                    might impose behavioural controls
                                    (e.g. to prevent limitation of
                                    supply) <br>
                                    or structural controls (e.g. a
                                    shorter contract, to require
                                    renunciation <br>
                                    of any presumption of renewal of the
                                    registry contract etc) or some <br>
                                    combination of the two. There will
                                    be plenty of room for arguments
                                    about <br>
                                    the best way to proceed. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    But arguments that resolve to (or
                                    are recognisable as a mere pretext <br>
                                    for) the claim that .gay ought not
                                    to exist can be dismissed: ICANN&#39;s <br>
                                    mission is to make domains
                                    available, not to prevent their
                                    availability. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    I promised a HOW. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Here is HOW I think we should
                                    proceed. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    In our Frankfurt face-to-face we
                                    constructed, yet again, a map of <br>
                                    possible new structures, and most of
                                    the focus went on that. But there <br>
                                    was also a slot on it for the
                                    question of clarifying the mission,
                                    as the <br>
                                    basis for review. A few weeks ago,
                                    on this list, Steve DelBianco made a
                                    <br>
                                    very valuable start, suggesting a
                                    new codification of the mission.
                                    That <br>
                                    contribution has passed almost
                                    without notice. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    I don&#39;t necessarily think Steve&#39;s
                                    formulation is perfect, but it&#39;s a
                                    lot <br>
                                    better than anything else I&#39;ve yet
                                    seen, and it has the virtue of being
                                    <br>
                                    a contribution on this critical
                                    subject, almost alone. Let us work <br>
                                    together on that, to build that
                                    common shared sense of Mission. <br>
                                    Not an infinitely broad Mission,
                                    intended to allow any possible
                                    action <br>
                                    in an unknowable future, but a
                                    narrow mission, intended to guide,
                                    to <br>
                                    help make decisions which are
                                    choices, that can, as Bruce says,
                                    act as a <br>
                                    meaningful criterion for review of
                                    decisions. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Let us have the courage to believe
                                    we can build a strong consensus on a
                                    <br>
                                    meaningfully limited mission, not
                                    merely on narrow questions of
                                    process. <br>
                                    If we can succeed in that, we can
                                    succeed in creating an ICANN that is
                                    <br>
                                    meaningfully accountable to the
                                    community on matters of essential <br>
                                    substance, not merely failures of
                                    process. <br>
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