<div dir="ltr">Eric:<div><br></div><div>I think the USG would be highly displeased.</div><div><br></div><div>For what it is worth, I think that the accountability created by the NTIA contract, and the fact that the USG is seeking to end that arrangement, is why we are all having this conversation in the first place.</div><div><br></div><div>Without the contract, what do you think the USG would do?</div><div><br></div><div>The point is not whether the Board intends or does not intend to end the AOC. I have no doubt it has no such desire. </div><div><br></div><div>The point is, in the post-NTIA-contract world, what would we want to be able to do about it?<br><br></div><div>best</div><div>Jordan</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 January 2015 at 11:30, Eric Brunner-Williams <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net" target="_blank">ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Steve, Jordan, and anyone else so
inclined,<br>
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Would you care to offer your best guess(es) as to the response of
the Government of the United States were the Corporation to engage
in the course of conduct proposed?<br>
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I suspect it would look suspiciously similar to something we've
seen before,
<a href="http://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/fr_ianafunctionsnoi_02252011.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/fr_ianafunctionsnoi_02252011.pdf</a><br>
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Have either of you (or others sharing the concern expressed by
Steve and Jordan) any indication that the Board is or ever has
considered unilateral termination of the AoC? <br><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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Eric Brunner-Williams<br>
Eugene, Oregon</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 1/29/15 2:14 PM, Jordan Carter wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 30 January 2015 at 11:07, Eric
Brunner-Williams <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net" target="_blank">ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On 1/29/15 1:58 PM, Steve DelBianco wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Okay,
so Jonathan exaggerated a bit by saying we have zero
accountability today. But Avri admits we have no
mechanisms that are binding on the board. And Avri
cites the AoC, which can be canceled by ICANN at any
time.<br>
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Would you be so kind as to offer support for this ...
peculiar claim?<br>
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<div>From section 11 of the AOC:</div>
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<div>"<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;line-height:22.3999996185303px">Any
party may terminate this Affirmation of Commitments by
providing 120 days written notice to the other party.</span>" </div>
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<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/affirmation-of-commitments-2009-09-30-en" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/affirmation-of-commitments-2009-09-30-en</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><a href="http://duckduckgo.com" target="_blank">duckduckgo.com</a> is often
your friend.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Jordan</div>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Jordan Carter<br><br>Chief Executive <br><b>InternetNZ</b><br><br>04 495 2118 (office) | +64 21 442 649 (mob)<br><a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a> <br>Skype: jordancarter<br><br><i>To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential.</i><br><br></div></div>
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