<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Burr, Becky <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The questions and answers are interesting as advocacy but cannot be considered legal advice for our work<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hi Burr,<br><br></div><div>I personally find your comment above worrisome, especially as Leon already explained the intent. I don&#39;t understand why you would say a legal advice should be considered as advocacy. For me, we have received a legal advice which simply indicates the firm&#39;s interpretation of the existing law and what they think is possible. While its okay to have another legal advice just for benefit of doubt and due diligence, i don&#39;t think we should necessarily rely/trust on the external legal advice than the internal legal advice...either of them can be presented with vested interest (especially in a process like this).<br><br></div><div>Regards<br></div><div><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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&gt; On Feb 8, 2015, at 12:19 PM, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía &lt;<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Dear all,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Answering your questions:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Keith.- The questions were presented by the Co-Chairs at our Frankfut<br>
&gt; meeting as a high-level first approach to what we should be focusing on<br>
&gt; achieving. They were also discussed at the CCWG call of January 27.  We<br>
&gt; then asked Staff to pass the questions through ICANN legal so they<br>
&gt; referred this questions to Jones Day. The document are the responses<br>
&gt; prepared by Kevin Espinola of Jones Day.  The goal was to get a very rapid<br>
&gt; response on some basic questions the group wanted answers on.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jordan.- I believe Adam has clarified where the questions came from and<br>
&gt; how they got into Jones Day for response which is in line with what I have<br>
&gt; replied to Keith.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Phil.- Nobody said this was the advice we are taking. Please see this<br>
&gt; document as one more input document tat will feed our work, just as the<br>
&gt; CWG legal document has fed it. This is NOT intended to be taken as the<br>
&gt; legal advice we¹re looking for although in the end it might (or might not)<br>
&gt; be compatible with what we need.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I hope this clarifies the doubts and concerns raised so far.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Best regards,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; León<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; El 08/02/2015, a las 12:05, Dr Eberhard W Lisse &lt;el@lisse.NA&gt; escribió:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Phil,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; opinions of dependent lawyers are as interesting as the ones of<br>
&gt;&gt; independent ones :-)-O<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; el<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On 2015-02-08 11:48 , Jordan Carter wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Phil, yes - the CCWG agreed with that in Frankfurt. It was felt it might<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; be helpful to understand the view of the company and its representatives<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; as well as an independent view, if I recall correctly.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Jordan<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On 8 February 2015 at 11:36, Phil Corwin &lt;<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   Jones Day cannot be regarded as an objective and neutral source of<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   legal advice or opinions on anything related to ICANN. Indeed, any<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   statement made by Jones Day must be regarded as the views of ICANN,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   its long-standing client.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal<br>
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&gt;&gt;&gt;   &quot;Luck is the residue of design&quot; -- Branch Rickey<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   *From: *Drazek, Keith<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   *Sent: *Sunday, February 8, 2015 11:14 AM<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   *To: *León Felipe Sánchez Ambía<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   *Cc: *CCWG Accountability<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   *Subject: *Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Responses to questions from Jones Day<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   Leon,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   Do I understand you correctly that Jones Day developed both the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   questions and the answers? Did the CCWG request this?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   Thanks,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   Keith<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   Sent from my iPhone<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   On Feb 8, 2015, at 10:18 AM, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;   &lt;<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   Dear all,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   Please find attached the responses from Jones Day for questions<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   prepared by Kevin Espinola. I would like to ask you to please<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   review the document so we can further discuss it in our session<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   tomorrow.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   I would also like to remind the group that this is a first step<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   which runs parallel to what the legal sub-team is doing in<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   coordination with the CWG “legal client”. The aim is to have this<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   responses reviewed by the legal sub-team as well as by the larger<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   CCWG so we can determine how to better validate this responses<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   with the external legal advisors when we engage with said external<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   advice.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   I look forward to a fruitful session with all of you.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   Best regards,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   León<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   &lt;Accountability Questions for CCWG - from Jones Day.pdf&gt;<br>
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