<div dir="ltr">James,<div><br></div><div>Actually, I don't think so. I'm sure ICANN could find counsel to give similarly restrictive advice about any jurisdiction.</div><div><br></div><div>Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 2:17 PM, James M. Bladel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com" target="_blank">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">My concern:<br>
<br>
-IF- these questions and responses (particularly #3-#5) are indeed taken as valid legal advice, then they lay the groundwork for arguing to re-domicile ICANN outside of California.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
J.<br>
____________<br>
James Bladel<br>
GoDaddy<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
> On Feb 8, 2015, at 13:05, Burr, Becky <<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> The questions and answers are interesting as advocacy but cannot be considered legal advice for our work<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPad<br>
><br>
>> On Feb 8, 2015, at 12:19 PM, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Dear all,<br>
>><br>
>> Answering your questions:<br>
>><br>
>> Keith.- The questions were presented by the Co-Chairs at our Frankfut<br>
>> meeting as a high-level first approach to what we should be focusing on<br>
>> achieving. They were also discussed at the CCWG call of January 27. We<br>
>> then asked Staff to pass the questions through ICANN legal so they<br>
>> referred this questions to Jones Day. The document are the responses<br>
>> prepared by Kevin Espinola of Jones Day. The goal was to get a very rapid<br>
>> response on some basic questions the group wanted answers on.<br>
>><br>
>> Jordan.- I believe Adam has clarified where the questions came from and<br>
>> how they got into Jones Day for response which is in line with what I have<br>
>> replied to Keith.<br>
>><br>
>> Phil.- Nobody said this was the advice we are taking. Please see this<br>
>> document as one more input document tat will feed our work, just as the<br>
>> CWG legal document has fed it. This is NOT intended to be taken as the<br>
>> legal advice we¹re looking for although in the end it might (or might not)<br>
>> be compatible with what we need.<br>
>><br>
>> I hope this clarifies the doubts and concerns raised so far.<br>
>><br>
>> Best regards,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> León<br>
>><br>
>>> El 08/02/2015, a las 12:05, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.NA> escribió:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Phil,<br>
>>><br>
>>> opinions of dependent lawyers are as interesting as the ones of<br>
>>> independent ones :-)-O<br>
>>><br>
>>> el<br>
>>><br>
>>>> On 2015-02-08 11:48 , Jordan Carter wrote:<br>
>>>> Phil, yes - the CCWG agreed with that in Frankfurt. It was felt it might<br>
>>>> be helpful to understand the view of the company and its representatives<br>
>>>> as well as an independent view, if I recall correctly.<br>
>>>> Jordan<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On 8 February 2015 at 11:36, Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Jones Day cannot be regarded as an objective and neutral source of<br>
>>>> legal advice or opinions on anything related to ICANN. Indeed, any<br>
>>>> statement made by Jones Day must be regarded as the views of ICANN,<br>
>>>> its long-standing client.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal<br>
>>>> Virtualaw LLC<br>
>>>> 1155 F Street, NW. Suite 1050<br>
>>>> Washington, DC 20004<br>
>>>> <a href="tel:202-559-8597" value="+12025598597">202-559-8597</a>/Direct<br>
>>>> <a href="tel:202-559-8750" value="+12025598750">202-559-8750</a>/Fax<br>
>>>> <a href="tel:202-255-6172" value="+12022556172">202-255-6172</a>/Cell<br>
>>>> Twitter: @VLawDC<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey<br>
>>>> *From: *Drazek, Keith<br>
>>>> *Sent: *Sunday, February 8, 2015 11:14 AM<br>
>>>> *To: *León Felipe Sánchez Ambía<br>
>>>> *Cc: *CCWG Accountability<br>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Responses to questions from Jones Day<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Leon,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Do I understand you correctly that Jones Day developed both the<br>
>>>> questions and the answers? Did the CCWG request this?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>> Keith<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Feb 8, 2015, at 10:18 AM, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Dear all,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Please find attached the responses from Jones Day for questions<br>
>>>>> prepared by Kevin Espinola. I would like to ask you to please<br>
>>>>> review the document so we can further discuss it in our session<br>
>>>>> tomorrow.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I would also like to remind the group that this is a first step<br>
>>>>> which runs parallel to what the legal sub-team is doing in<br>
>>>>> coordination with the CWG “legal client”. The aim is to have this<br>
>>>>> responses reviewed by the legal sub-team as well as by the larger<br>
>>>>> CCWG so we can determine how to better validate this responses<br>
>>>>> with the external legal advisors when we engage with said external<br>
>>>>> advice.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I look forward to a fruitful session with all of you.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Best regards,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> León<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> <Accountability Questions for CCWG - from Jones Day.pdf><br>
>>>><br>
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