<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Dear All</div><div>The treatment and processing of gTLD is quite different from that if ccTLD</div><div>There seems inappropriate to treat these two entirely different issues in the same manner.</div><div>Kavouss <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 16 Feb 2015, at 19:51, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Roelof:<div><br></div><div>It occurs to me that you might not be clear on what "Consensus Policy" means in this context.<br><div><br></div><div>"Consensus Policy" is a specifically defined term used in the ICANN Bylaws and defined in the gTLD Registry Agreement and Registrar Accreditation Agreement. (To the best of my knowledge, it is not used in the ccTLD context.) It refers to policy developed through the GNSO Policy Development Process, and specifically to policy which is meant to create binding obligations on gTLD registries and registrars. Consensus policy is developed by a Working Group, which must approve its recommendations by consensus of the Working Group (such consensus is "rough" consensus rather than "full" consensus). The potential Consensus Policy must then be approved by a GNSO Council Supermajority vote. If approved, it is a "PDP Recommendation. The PDP Recommendation then goes to the ICANN Board. The Board must then adopt the PDP Recommendation unless it is rejected by a 2/3 vote. The vote is supposed to take place "<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);line-height:22.3999996185303px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">as soon as feasible, but preferably not later than the second meeting after receipt of a Board Report on the PDP Recommendation, prepared by an ICANN Staff Manager.</font></span></div><div><br></div><div>I hope this helps you understand what is being discussed. Becky or others, please feel free to correct or clarify.</div><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:22.3999996185303px">In terms of measuring consensus, the Final Report of a PDP Working Group contains a record of the position of each participant with regard to consensus. I don't think there is any particular need for this Working Group to delve into GNSO PDP Working Group Procedures, at least not as a Work Stream 1 issue. I assume this was not what you were suggesting, in any event.</span><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:22.3999996185303px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:22.3999996185303px">There may be accountability issues relating to the Board's actions in approving consensus policy. For instance, I'm not sure if the Board ever approved or rejected certain PDP Recommendations relating to IGO/INGO identifiers that differed from GAC Policy Advice. These were before the Board for a vote on 30 April 2014, and the Board tried to broker a compromise, rather than directly face the issue of a "policy collision" between the GNSO and the GAC. In the interim, the GAC's "Advice" is in effect, not the GNSO's PDP Recommendation (in spite of the of the fact that the GNSO is supposed to be the source for GNSO policy).</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:22.3999996185303px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:22.3999996185303px">Hope this helps.</span></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Greg</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:00 AM, Roelof Meijer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl" target="_blank">Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>maandag 9 februari 2015 17:03<br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Additional Document for discussion<br>
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<div>I have made a quick attempt to articulate the standard of behavior against which ICANN might be measured for accountability purposes. It roughly corresponds to the Mission Statement and Core Values in the ICANN bylaws today, but has some additions that
and modifications consistent with various suggestions that I’ve heard from the group. If I missed your suggestion, please accept my apologies. This is just to start the discussion. </div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Alice Jansen <<a href="mailto:alice.jansen@icann.org" target="_blank">alice.jansen@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday, February 9, 2015 at 4:38 PM<br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>[CCWG-ACCT] Revised agenda - Meeting #11<br>
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<div>In anticipation of your meeting #11, please find attached a revised agenda.</div>
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