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    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    Many of us argue that Human Rights is an essential component of any
    definition of Public Interest.  How can something be in the Public
    Interest if it contravenes human rights, especially those that are
    binding upon nations and obligatory for businesses, especially those
    which are defined as adhering to all applicable international law.<br>
    <br>
    However, we have seen that in arriving at expression of public
    interest, it is often necessary to balance those human rights, all
    of which stand equal as human rights, but that have different
    emphasis in different national regimes, even among those who
    justifiably can claim an adherence to human rights.<br>
    <br>
    As a organization, ICANN needs to adhere to human rights mandates
    and needs to do so in the public interest.  It is my understanding
    that our bottom-up processes are the means by which we determine our
    understanding of the public interest.  But in doing so, we must
    always be sure we do not infringe upon human rights.<br>
    <br>
    Just as there are many ways to achieve stability, security and
    resilience, and we determine that through our bottom-up processes,
    as modulated through the advice of our experts on security and
    stability in the SSAC and RSSAC, there are many ways to serve the
    public interest that need to be determined through adherence to
    bylaws manadated bottom-up processes and modulated through expert
    advice on human rights.<br>
    <br>
    So perhaps we should be considering "public interest consistent with
    human rights."<br>
    <br>
    avri<br>
    <br>
    I<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18-Feb-15 05:15, Kavouss Arasteh
      wrote:<br>
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      <div>Dear All,</div>
      <div>We should avoid to be engaged doing</div>
      <div> something that we know would no tangible</div>
      <div> results.</div>
      <div>I do not be infavour of replacing public interest </div>
      <div>With anything such as human rights and </div>
      <div>freedom Of expression, acknowledging </div>
      <div>That the latter two issues are very important </div>
      <div>But are quite difficult to limit public interests to </div>
      <div>These two issues</div>
      <div>Pls be prudent</div>
      <div>Kavouss</div>
      <div>    </div>
      <div>  <br>
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        Sent from my iPhone</div>
      <div><br>
        On 17 Feb 2015, at 22:43, Edward Morris &lt;<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net">egmorris1@toast.net</a>&gt;
        wrote:<br>
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          <div>I'm a bit confused Tijani.</div>
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          <div>First, you said you didn't remember the suggestion and
            now you state the suggestion had no support. As I wasn't
            able to be in Frankfurt I would appreciate clarification of
            the status of this worthy idea. I'm personally not a big fan
            of the generic  term "public interest", finding that in
            practice "public interest" usually morphs into "personal
            interest": that is, "the public it is I". I realise that
            creation of a consensus definition of the public interest is
            called for in the draft 5 year OP but I do find Robin's idea
            to be worthy of discussion by the wider WG and thank staff
            for including it in the summary document.</div>
          <div><br>
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          <div>Best,</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Ed<br>
            <br>
            Sent from my iPad</div>
          <div><br>
            On Feb 17, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Tijani BEN JEMAA &lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@fmai.org.tn">tijani.benjemaa@fmai.org.tn</a>&gt;
            wrote:<br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Yes you did in
                    Frankfurt, and there was no support to your
                    suggestion.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The “public
                    interest” or the “benefit of the
                    public, not just in the interests of a particular
                    set of stakeholders”
                    had a large support as part of the “<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true" name="_GoBack"></a>CCWG
                    Accountability – Problem definition” document
                    (purposes of
                    ICANN’s accountability, d.)</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Tijani BEN
                      JEMAA</span></b></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Executive
                    Director</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Mediterranean
                    Federation of Internet Associations </span><span
                    lang="EN-US">(<b>FMAI</b>)</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Phone:  + 216 41
                    649 605</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Mobile: + 216 98
                    330 114</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Fax:       + 216
                    70 853 376</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">De :</span></b><span
                        lang="EN-US"> Robin Gross
                        [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">mailto:robin@ipjustice.org</a>]
                        <br>
                        <b>Envoyé :</b> mardi 17 février 2015 18:40<br>
                        <b>À :</b> Tijani BEN JEMAA<br>
                        <b>Cc :</b> 'Adam Peake'; 'Accountability Cross
                        Community'<br>
                        <b>Objet :</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG list
                        summary, Jan 30 to Feb 5</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I made this suggestion.</p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
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                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Robin</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">On Feb 16, 2015, at 3:54 PM,
                        Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear
                            Adam,</span><span></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I may
                            have missed some of the mails exchanged but
                            I don’t
                            remember that it was suggested that the
                            public interest be replaced by human
                            rights and internet freedom.</span><span></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Tijani</span><span></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>-----Message
                            d'origine-----<br>
                            De :<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><span
                              class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                            De la part de Adam Peake<br>
                            Envoyé : lundi 16 février 2015 18:45<br>
                            À : Accountability Cross Community<br>
                            Objet : [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG list summary, Jan
                            30 to Feb 5</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Apologies
                            for the delay sending this summary.  It was
                            sent to the advisors last week.</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Best,</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Adam</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                              <p><span>Ce courrier électronique ne
                                  contient aucun virus ou logiciel
                                  malveillant parce que la protection<span
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                        virus ou logiciel malveillant parce que la
                        protection <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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