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    Dear Avri,<br>
    <br>
    I note that there is currently an initiative regarding human rights
    and/at ICANN and a session took place in Singapore, to discuss its
    next steps.<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://singapore52.icann.org/en/schedule/wed-human-rights">http://singapore52.icann.org/en/schedule/wed-human-rights</a><br>
    Kindest regards,<br>
    <br>
    Olivier<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/02/2015 20:20, Avri Doria wrote:<br>
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      Hi,<br>
      <br>
      Many of us argue that Human Rights is an essential component of
      any definition of Public Interest.  How can something be in the
      Public Interest if it contravenes human rights, especially those
      that are binding upon nations and obligatory for businesses,
      especially those which are defined as adhering to all applicable
      international law.<br>
      <br>
      However, we have seen that in arriving at expression of public
      interest, it is often necessary to balance those human rights, all
      of which stand equal as human rights, but that have different
      emphasis in different national regimes, even among those who
      justifiably can claim an adherence to human rights.<br>
      <br>
      As a organization, ICANN needs to adhere to human rights mandates
      and needs to do so in the public interest.  It is my understanding
      that our bottom-up processes are the means by which we determine
      our understanding of the public interest.  But in doing so, we
      must always be sure we do not infringe upon human rights.<br>
      <br>
      Just as there are many ways to achieve stability, security and
      resilience, and we determine that through our bottom-up processes,
      as modulated through the advice of our experts on security and
      stability in the SSAC and RSSAC, there are many ways to serve the
      public interest that need to be determined through adherence to
      bylaws manadated bottom-up processes and modulated through expert
      advice on human rights.<br>
      <br>
      So perhaps we should be considering "public interest consistent
      with human rights."<br>
      <br>
      avri<br>
      <br>
      I<br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18-Feb-15 05:15, Kavouss Arasteh
        wrote:<br>
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        <div>Dear All,</div>
        <div>We should avoid to be engaged doing</div>
        <div> something that we know would no tangible</div>
        <div> results.</div>
        <div>I do not be infavour of replacing public interest </div>
        <div>With anything such as human rights and </div>
        <div>freedom Of expression, acknowledging </div>
        <div>That the latter two issues are very important </div>
        <div>But are quite difficult to limit public interests to </div>
        <div>These two issues</div>
        <div>Pls be prudent</div>
        <div>Kavouss</div>
        <div>    </div>
        <div>  <br>
          <br>
          Sent from my iPhone</div>
        <div><br>
          On 17 Feb 2015, at 22:43, Edward Morris &lt;<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net">egmorris1@toast.net</a>&gt;

          wrote:<br>
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            <div>I'm a bit confused Tijani.</div>
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            <div>First, you said you didn't remember the suggestion and
              now you state the suggestion had no support. As I wasn't
              able to be in Frankfurt I would appreciate clarification
              of the status of this worthy idea. I'm personally not a
              big fan of the generic  term "public interest", finding
              that in practice "public interest" usually morphs into
              "personal interest": that is, "the public it is I". I
              realise that creation of a consensus definition of the
              public interest is called for in the draft 5 year OP but I
              do find Robin's idea to be worthy of discussion by the
              wider WG and thank staff for including it in the summary
              document.</div>
            <div><br>
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            <div>Best,</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Ed<br>
              <br>
              Sent from my iPad</div>
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              On Feb 17, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Tijani BEN JEMAA &lt;<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@fmai.org.tn">tijani.benjemaa@fmai.org.tn</a>&gt;

              wrote:<br>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Yes you did in
                      Frankfurt, and there was no support to your
                      suggestion.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The “public
                      interest” or the “benefit of the public, not just
                      in the interests of a particular set of
                      stakeholders” had a large support as part of the “<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true" name="_GoBack"></a>CCWG
                      Accountability – Problem definition” document
                      (purposes of ICANN’s accountability, d.)</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Tijani BEN
                        JEMAA</span></b></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Executive
                      Director</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Mediterranean
                      Federation of Internet Associations </span><span
                      lang="EN-US">(<b>FMAI</b>)</span><span
                      lang="EN-US"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Phone:  + 216
                      41 649 605</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Mobile: + 216
                      98 330 114</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Fax:       +
                      216 70 853 376</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">De :</span></b><span
                          lang="EN-US"> Robin Gross [<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">mailto:robin@ipjustice.org</a>]
                          <br>
                          <b>Envoyé :</b> mardi 17 février 2015 18:40<br>
                          <b>À :</b> Tijani BEN JEMAA<br>
                          <b>Cc :</b> 'Adam Peake'; 'Accountability
                          Cross Community'<br>
                          <b>Objet :</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG list
                          summary, Jan 30 to Feb 5</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I made this suggestion.</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
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                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Robin</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Feb 16, 2015, at 3:54
                          PM, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear
                              Adam,</span><span></span></p>
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                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I may
                              have missed some of the mails exchanged
                              but I don’t remember that it was suggested
                              that the public interest be replaced by
                              human rights and internet freedom.</span><span></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Tijani</span><span></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>-----Message
                              d'origine-----<br>
                              De :<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><span
                                class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                              De la part de Adam Peake<br>
                              Envoyé : lundi 16 février 2015 18:45<br>
                              À : Accountability Cross Community<br>
                              Objet : [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG list summary, Jan
                              30 to Feb 5</span></p>
                        </div>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                        </div>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Apologies for the
                              delay sending this summary.  It was sent
                              to the advisors last week.</span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Best,</span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Adam</span></p>
                        </div>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                                <p><span>Ce courrier électronique ne
                                    contient aucun virus ou logiciel
                                    malveillant parce que la protection<span
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                        <p> Ce courrier électronique ne contient aucun
                          virus ou logiciel malveillant parce que la
                          protection <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://www.avast.com/">Antivirus
                            avast!</a> est active. </p>
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