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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hello Jacob,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Yes – agreed we need to tighten both reporting against timelines, and also ensure that the providers meet the agreed timelines.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I have asked for this to be on the agenda of the next Board Governance Committee meeting.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jacob Malthouse<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 10 March 2015 6:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robin Gross<br>
<b>Cc:</b> accountability-cross-community@icann.org Accountability<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] [Party2] Independent Review<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bruce, the IRP PDF is improved. We still have a long way to go. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To throw this into stark relief, here's an analogy: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Imagine you got a mortgage to build a house. Right before you start to build, a third party puts some 'hold' on your land with city council. Your building permit freezes. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You have literally no way of knowing anything about how long the process will be, if it is even justified or has standing, and all questions you ask to the Council are met with, well check this PDF we update it every so often, there's some
cryptic stuff in there but even if you aren't on it you might still be on hold. There's some timelines but no one pays attention to them. Might be six months, might be four years. Might be until the sun expands to fry the earth.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Now go tell your wife. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best. J. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 8 March 2015 at 12:03, Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We need to add an evaluation of the "Cooperative Engagement Process" or "CEP" - the initial or pre step to trigger an IRP on an ICANN decision. There are timing, transparency, and due process issues to consider in the CEP step an ICANN
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Robin<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mar 6, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Alice Munyua wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Thank you. <br>
Re-sending and would like to add another issue regarding timely communication to all affected parties.
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Thanks - it doesn't look like your message got distributed to the group list which I think would be a good idea -
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Thank you for this list of topics.<br>
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11. Should the IRP be provided with clear time lines for each stage<br>
12 What provisions can be put in place for redress against the IRP provider in the event the process goes off track<br>
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[This is for the <u>Independent Review subgroup</u>: Paul Rosenzweig, David McAuley, Jonathan Zuck, Robin Gross, Chris LaHatte, me]. I don't think a separate mailing list has been set up, so I apologize to the rest of you who are working on other issues here]
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I'm a little bit late to the WP2 party, but I thought, just for the purpose of kicking off our discussion, we might see if there we can generate a list of topics that we need to cover for the design of the IRP --
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I'm sure there are others, but here's a starter group, picking up on some of the "issues" listed in the latest work item list and adding a few others:<br>
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1. Will the IRP be a permanent standing panel, or will it have rotating membership?<br>
2. What is the scope of the IRB's jurisdiction - what kinds of claims can it hear?
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4. Standing - who can bring claims to the IRP?<br>
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7. Will there be a process for removal of IRP members?<br>
8. Costs - who will pay IRP costs? <br>
9. How will IRP decisions be implemented? Are they binding on the Board? Can they be overturned by the Board?
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10. Should changes to the IRP process be made permanent (i.e., not subject to Board modification)? If so, how can we accomplish that?<br>
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As I said, I'm sure there are things missing or mis-stated - but I do think it would be worth trying to put a list like this together to structure our discussion as we plunge forward.<br>
David<br>
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