<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Why are we speculating?</div><div><br></div><div>el<br><br>-- <div>Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini</div></div><div><br>On Mar 18, 2015, at 20:37, Drazek, Keith <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Seun,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I respectfully disagree.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If ICANN staff or Board members are participating in or attending a private planning meeting of the Advisors, then community members should also be invited
to observe, at a minimum.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If you look at their agenda items 2-5 (especially 2-3), their private meeting will contribute to setting expectations and understanding of the issues. Wouldn’t
that be best enabled through participation of CCWG members, or the Co-Chairs at a minimum?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In my opinion, it would be inappropriate for ICANN staff and/or Board members to have unique access to the Advisors at this sensitive and formative stage in
their engagement with the CCWG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks and regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Keith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Seun Ojedeji [<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Drazek, Keith<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>; Adam Peake<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG Advisors joining Istanbul meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>While it may be fine to have them meet openly, I don't think it's something to worry about. The reason is because of their role being advisory; one would expect that whatever they determine would still be forwarded to ccwg as an advice to consider.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>sent from Google nexus 4<br>
kindly excuse brevity and typos.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 18 Mar 2015 19:09, "Drazek, Keith" <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Adam,<br>
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Will any ICANN staff or Board members participate in or attend the private meeting of the Advisors?<br>
<br>
Is there a reason their meeting is not open to observers?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Keith<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf
Of Adam Peake<br>
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:04 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG Advisors joining Istanbul meeting<br>
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Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
Three of the Advisors will attend the CCWG meeting on Monday and Tuesday next week:<br>
<br>
Valerie D'Costa, Jan Scholte and Lee Bygrave<br>
(<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Advisors" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Advisors</a>)<br>
<br>
They arrive on Saturday and will hold their own meeting on Sunday morning and early afternoon. At least one other member, Willie Currie, will join remote.<br>
<br>
This is the first time any of them will have had chance to meet face to face. Tentative agenda for their meeting:<br>
<br>
09:00 - 15:00 local Istanbul (07:00 - 13:00 UTC)<br>
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1. Introduction & Opening Remarks<br>
2. Topics of interest & Concerns<br>
3. Understanding the context and recent developments 4. How can we help the CCWG?<br>
5. Preparing for CCWG session<br>
6. A.O.B<br>
<br>
They will receive the same documents as all members of the CCWG, and we suspect their discussions will be shaped by those (WP1, WP2, stress test work party outcomes)<br>
<br>
They will join the welcome cocktail.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Adam<br>
<br>
Adam Peake<br>
<br>
ICANN<br>
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