<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>In that there are so few volunteers crossing over in to so many of the strings, confusion does happen. </div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for your informative email</div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Mar 18, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Carrie,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">First, this seems like a non sequitur to me. Can you explain how this is relevant to the work of WP1? I've reviewed the agenda materials at the beginning of this email thread and I don't see the connection.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Second, you should be aware that this is not entirely a hypothetical scenario. It is a hypothetical variation on actual events.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Third, if two parties (regardless of who they are) apply for the same gTLD, the AGB (the new gTLD Applicant Guidebook, in case you are not familiar with it) details how such "contention sets" may be resolved. So, this is also not really a hypothetical situation. As such, there is no need to speculate or hypothesize the ways in which a contention set could be resolved, and what if any variable could serve to elevate one application above another.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Fourth, I would disagree emphatically with your assumption that "the Amazon" (which is a river, by the way, and not any type of geopolitical entity) has some sort of legally cognizable claim to ".Amazon" and further, that that claim (assuming purely for the sake of argument that it has a legal basis) is somehow superior to the intellectual property rights (which are absolutely a legally cognizable claim) of Amazon the company. I recognize that there are those who disagree and that this is indeed a live discussion elsewhere in ICANN. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">For all of the reasons above, I don't think it's appropriate to raise this question in this forum. We have enough relevant matters to discuss. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Carrie Devorah <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carriedev@gmail.com" target="_blank">carriedev@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I have a hypothetical scenario....<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Addressing Countries...<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">What if Amazon the company sought the gTLD of .Amazon and Amazon the geographical area wanted .amazon<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Would .amazon automatically be the Amazon's the geographical or would Amazon be forced to Court to defend what is naturally the Amazon's, the geographical<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Sincerely<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Carrie Devorah<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><a href="http://www.centerforcopyrightintegrity.com" target="_blank">www.centerforcopyrightintegrity.com</a><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Greg Shatan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The Adobe Connect link is <a href="https://icann.adobeconnect.com/accountability/" target="_blank">https://icann.adobeconnect.com/accountability/</a>.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Jordan,</div><div>GE.</div><div>May I request you to kindly advised that ADOBE CONNECTION be sent to me</div><div>Kavouss </div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>2015-03-18 20:56 GMT+01:00 Greg Shatan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The call is not for another hour and four minutes.</div><span><font color="#888888"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg Shatan</div></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:41 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:villa@reduniv.edu.cu" target="_blank">villa@reduniv.edu.cu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
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<div>I’m being unable to enter the room this afternoon. Is there any problem
about it? My connection died waiting an answer from the meeting host.</div>
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<div>Anybody has the same trouble?</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Jorge</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="jordan@internetnz.net.nz" href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">Jordan Carter</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 18, 2015 3:07 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="wp1@icann.org" href="mailto:wp1@icann.org" target="_blank">wp1@icann.org</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="accountability-cross-community@icann.org" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">Accountability Cross
Community</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> [CCWG-ACCT] Agenda for WP1 meeting #5 - 18 March 2015,
21-23h UTC</div></div></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi all
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<div>Here is proposed agenda:</div>
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<div><b>1. Review of Agenda</b></div>
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<div><b>2. Review of CCWG meeting and any actions arising</b></div>
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<div><b>3. Substantive Content to Review:</b></div>
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<div>Note our <b>progress/status chart</b> is at <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DaROrG8fIGVEdwuBv-GBKP3cG8UJGQUPKjFhrnE6pq0/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DaROrG8fIGVEdwuBv-GBKP3cG8UJGQUPKjFhrnE6pq0/edit?usp=sharing</a> </div>
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<div>Note also that <b>content</b> should all be available on the Wiki at <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/WP1+Draft+Documents" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/WP1+Draft+Documents</a> <br></div>
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<div><b>Powers matters:</b></div>
<div>- AOC incorporation - Matthew Shears (as just circulated by me)</div>
<div>- Removing ICANN Board - Malcolm Hutty (see his previously circulated
amendment to Removal of Board template)</div>
<div>- Updates on any missing ones as per the chart </div>
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<div><b>Mechanisms matters:</b></div>
<div>- A - Existing SO/AC structures - Jordan </div>
<div>- B - Permanent CCWG - Jordan</div>
<div>- C - Statutory Delegates - Edward</div>
<div>- D - Statutory Members - Edward</div>
<div>- G - Community Council - Jordan</div>
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<div><b>4. Our meeting Sunday 22 March 17:30-1900 local time in
Istanbul</b></div>
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<div><b>5. Any Other Business</b></div>
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<div>best</div>
<div>Jordan</div>
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