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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robin Gross<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 19, 2015 2:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Adam Peake<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Accountability Cross Community<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG Advisors joining Istanbul meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Much appreciated, Adam!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mar 19, 2015, at 6:18 AM, Adam Peake wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Adam Peake <<a href="mailto:adam.peake@icann.org">adam.peake@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 8:27 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Jordan Carter <<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Accountability Cross Community <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG Advisors joining Istanbul meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I understand your concerns. We are working on a solution and will let you know shortly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Jordan Carter <<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 7:25 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Edward Morris <<a href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net">egmorris1@toast.net</a>>, Adam Peake <<a href="mailto:adam.peake@icann.org">adam.peake@icann.org</a>>, Accountability Cross Community <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG Advisors joining Istanbul meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I don't have any view at this stage about the need for that part of the meeting to be open to observers etc - it doesn't sound like a bad idea or a problem to me per se to have
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Phil Corwin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 18, 2015 5:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Edward Morris; Adam Peake</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Cc:</b> Accountability Cross Community<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG Advisors joining Istanbul meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Edward Morris<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 18, 2015 5:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Adam Peake<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Accountability Cross Community<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG Advisors joining Istanbul meeting</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">HI Adam,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I'd suggest that staff should not be the ones providing "background" to the experts, assuming "background" includes interpretation of substantive subject matter. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 8:54 PM, Adam Peake <<a href="mailto:adam.peake@icann.org" target="_blank">adam.peake@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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how they might best support the group while in Istanbul and ongoing. I thought it very reasonable that they should want to do this. I hope it will benefit the CCWG's work in the coming days, and over the next few months.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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We hadn't envisioned opening the meeting to observers. As it's their first opportunity for them to talk, to hold informal discussions, I think it perhaps helpful if not open. They are trying to prepare themselves for the meetings ahead. </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 4:12 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Accountability Cross Community <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG Advisors joining Istanbul meeting</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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to this work as well. I planned to arrive to Istanbul in time to attend any mtgs on Sunday so would like to attend this one as well at least as an observer.
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Drazek, Keith<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>; Adam Peake<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG Advisors joining Istanbul meeting</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">While it may be fine to have them meet openly, I don't think it's something to worry about. The reason is because of their role being advisory; one would expect that whatever
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kindly excuse brevity and typos.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">On 18 Mar 2015 19:09, "Drazek, Keith" <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Will any ICANN staff or Board members participate in or attend the private meeting of the Advisors?<br>
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Is there a reason their meeting is not open to observers?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Keith<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Adam Peake<br>
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:04 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG Advisors joining Istanbul meeting<br>
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Hi everyone,<br>
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Three of the Advisors will attend the CCWG meeting on Monday and Tuesday next week:<br>
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Valerie D'Costa, Jan Scholte and Lee Bygrave<br>
(<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Advisors" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Advisors</a>)<br>
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They arrive on Saturday and will hold their own meeting on Sunday morning and early afternoon. At least one other member, Willie Currie, will join remote.<br>
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This is the first time any of them will have had chance to meet face to face. Tentative agenda for their meeting:<br>
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09:00 - 15:00 local Istanbul (07:00 - 13:00 UTC)<br>
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1. Introduction & Opening Remarks<br>
2. Topics of interest & Concerns<br>
3. Understanding the context and recent developments 4. How can we help the CCWG?<br>
5. Preparing for CCWG session<br>
6. A.O.B<br>
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They will receive the same documents as all members of the CCWG, and we suspect their discussions will be shaped by those (WP1, WP2, stress test work party outcomes)<br>
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They will join the welcome cocktail.<br>
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Best,<br>
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Adam<br>
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Adam Peake<br>
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ICANN<br>
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