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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Kieren McCarthy <<a href="mailto:kieren@kierenmccarthy.com">kieren@kierenmccarthy.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 4:38 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>León Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>ACCT-Staff <<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org">acct-staff@icann.org</a>>, CCWG Accountability <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>>, Lisse Eberhard
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<div>This approach may look sound on the inside but there are two clearly very unusual aspects to it:</div>
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<div>1. A small group of people have decided that they should step outside accepted norms in the IANA transition process and been given control of a critical process. They have implemented it immediately, and are judging the validity of their decision by how
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<div>2. One of that small group appears to be ICANN's senior counsel. Something that is transparently a conflict of interest given that the entire process is supposed to be about gaining legal advice independent of ICANN</div>
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<div>Not only were these decisions made within the group and in a very short period of time with no effort to seek outside approval or input but the group hasn't even put together a reasoned explanation for why it has taken this approach.</div>
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<div>Even if you are one of the people that have allowed themselves inside this process, surely you can see that this is a terrible precedent for no good reason.</div>
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<div>* Why? Was there any evidence that this approach was actually needed? Or was it an assumed pre-emptive reduction in transparency and accountability? How long was the actual discussion? </div>
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<div>* What is the explanation/justification for having a member of ICANN's legal team on a committee that is specifically set up to gather legal advice independent from ICANN? How is this conflict of interest explained away?</div>
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<div>This was discussed and agreed upon in the legal team update session we had in our morning meeting on day 2 of our Istanbul meeting and then on a later call of the legal sub-team that same day.</div>
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<div>El 25/03/2015, a las 23:29, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a href="mailto:el@lisse.na" target="_blank">el@lisse.na</a>> escribió:</div>
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<div>Am I missing something here?</div>
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<div>When was this discussed, read twice and agreed upon?</div>
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On Mar 25, 2015, at 22:57, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>> wrote:<br>
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<li><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#333333">All formal requests, including follow-up clarifications, are made in writing and communicated through the public mailing list </font></span><a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none;line-height:19.0476188659668px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#333333"><span style="line-height:19.0476188659668px"> </span><span style="line-height:19px">–</span><span style="line-height:19.0476188659668px"> public
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and Samantha Eisner (support);. </li><li>Private coordination meetings between lawyers would be acceptable and desirable.</li><li>Information should flow freely between law firms. </li><li>Should there be the need for a call between the available members of the Executive Legal Subteam and any of the law firms in order to address urgent matters without the ability to setup a public call, it will always be required to provide proper debrief
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