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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>It is good to have this engagement, and to be prepared and to understand GAO's role.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 20:16:55 +0100<br>From: mshears@cdt.org<br>To: gregshatanipc@gmail.com; james@cyberinvasion.net<br>CC: accountability-cross-community@icann.org<br>Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] GAO meeting request<br><br>
  
    
  
  
    I believe that this may be the same list that the GAO have used to
    frame their discussions with other stakeholders (CDT has met with
    them).<br>
    <br>
    The "meeting" will be a discussion.&nbsp;&nbsp; The questions are for
    guidance. &nbsp; I concur with Greg - care and thoughtfulness should
    guide the discussion.&nbsp; <br>
    <br>
    I have full confidence that our Chairs will give a balanced and
    factual representation of the discussions that we have been engaged
    in to date. <br>
    <br>
    Matthew<br>
    <br>
    <div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">On 3/30/2015 7:26 PM, Greg Shatan
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote cite="mid:CA+aOHUQznwWB-kRy08vYvDMjC8cZz1JbjpTTMFmnDAsEUG-Azg@mail.gmail.com">
      <div dir="ltr">
        <div class="ecxgmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;">I agree that we should
          approach the GAO's request with care and thoughtfulness.&nbsp; On
          the other hand, I don't think we can view this is a request
          that we can simply accept or reject as we see fit, or where we
          can freely negotiate the content and direction of the
          questions.</div>
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        <div class="ecxgmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;">Greg</div>
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      <div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:54 PM, James
          Gannon <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d;">Based
                    on the questions outlined in the GAO brief I think
                    that the meeting may not align with a broad overview
                    of the methodology and structure, if they are
                    willing to talk about that and not delve into
                    specific questions on experience of the co-chairs,
                    risk identification, stakeholder representation and
                    the extent that the NTIAs criteria are sufficient,
                    then this may be a different discussion. B</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d;">But
                    as outlined their questions are very specific, and I
                    would say tailored to looking at the transition in a
                    certain manner. We need to quell our willingness to
                    share here and be very careful in how we approach
                    this.</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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                    <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">
                        <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>
                        [mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 30, 2015 6:46 PM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr</a><span><br>
                          <b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] GAO meeting
                          request</span></span></p>
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                <p class="ecxMsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal">Dear Mathieu</p>
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                      <p class="ecxMsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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                      <p class="ecxMsoNormal">As far as I understand the
                        GAO has been put in charge to review the IANA
                        transition process and inform Congress.</p>
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                      <p class="ecxMsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
                    </div>
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                      <p class="ecxMsoNormal">At this point I think it
                        would be very useful to fully brief them on the
                        methodology, working groups structure and
                        expected timelines for the broader community
                        inputs.</p>
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                      <p class="ecxMsoNormal">It is in any case the best
                        opportunity to explain the whole system to the
                        people who are going to evaluate its results and
                        make recommendations to the lawmakers. If you
                        convinced them, they will convince the lawmakers
                        in a way that is not possible during open
                        hearings.</p>
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                      <p class="ecxMsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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                      <p class="ecxMsoNormal">I would refrain in the brief
                        from <b><u>any</u></b> content issue at this
                        time.</p>
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                      <p class="ecxMsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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                      <p class="ecxMsoNormal">Best of luck</p>
                    </div>
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                      <p class="ecxMsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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                      <p class="ecxMsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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                          <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">Carlos
                              Raúl Gutiérrez<br>
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                              <br>
                              email:&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:crg@isoc-cr.org" target="_blank">crg@isoc-cr.org</a><span style="color:black;"><br>
                              Skype: carlos.raulg<br>
                              <a target="_blank">+506
                                8335 2487</a> (cel)<br>
                              <a target="_blank">+506
                                4000 2000</a> (home)<br>
                              <a target="_blank">+506
                                2290 3678</a> (fax)<br>
                              _____________________<br>
                              Apartado 1571-1000</span></p>
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                            <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">San Jose, COSTA RICA</span></p>
                          </div>
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                            <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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                            <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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                            <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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                        <p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="">&nbsp;</p>
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                      <p class="ecxMsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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                            <p class="ecxMsoNormal">On Mar 30, 2015, at
                              4:11 AM, Mathieu Weill &lt;<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>&gt;
                              wrote:</p>
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                          <p class="ecxMsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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                              <p class="ecxMsoNormal">Dear Colleagues,<br>
                                <br>
                                For your information, the US Governement
                                Accountability Office has requested a
                                teleconference with the co-chairs of the
                                CCWG. Tentative date is currently
                                discussed for next week (7 or 8 April).
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                Your inputs are welcome. <br>
                                <br>
                                Best regards,<br>
                                Thomas Rickert, Leon Felipe Sanchez,
                                Mathieu Weill</p>
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                                        <p class="ecxMsoNormal">April 1, 2,
                                          or 3 Meeting Request
                                          CCWG-Accountability Chairs</p>
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                                        <p class="ecxMsoNormal">Thu, 26 Mar
                                          2015 17:45:11 +0000</p>
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                                        <p class="ecxMsoNormal">Healey,
                                          John C <a href="mailto:HealeyJ@GAO.GOV" target="_blank">&lt;HealeyJ@GAO.GOV&gt;</a></p>
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                                        <p class="ecxMsoNormal">'<a href="mailto:rickert@anwaelte.de" target="_blank">rickert@anwaelte.de</a>'
                                          <a href="mailto:rickert@anwaelte.de" target="_blank">&lt;rickert@anwaelte.de&gt;</a>,
                                          '<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>'
                                          <a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">&lt;mathieu.weill@afnic.fr&gt;</a>,
                                          '<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>'
                                          <a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">&lt;leonfelipe@sanchez.mx&gt;</a></p>
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                                  <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Good
                                      day, Mr. Rickert, Mr. Sanchez
                                      Ambia, and Mr. Weill:</span></p>
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                                  <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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                                  <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">You
                                      may recall meeting my colleagues,
                                      Derrick Collins, Alwynne Wilbur,
                                      and Kate Perl at the ICANN meeting
                                      in Singapore in February.
                                    </span></p>
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                                  <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"></span></p>
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                                  <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">At
                                      any rate, the Government
                                      Accountability Office (GAO) has
                                      been asked by the Chairs of the
                                      House Committee on Energy and
                                      Commerce and its Communications
                                      and Technology Subcommittee to
                                      review the National
                                      Telecommunications and Information
                                      Administration’s (NTIA) proposed
                                      transition of &nbsp;key Internet domain
                                      name functions to the global
                                      multistakeholder community. We are
                                      meeting with knowledgeable people
                                      and organizations to gather
                                      information for our work.</span></p>
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                                  <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"></span></p>
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                                  <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">We
                                      would like to meet with you via
                                      teleconference to discuss the
                                      proposed transition from the
                                      perspective of the Accountability
                                      working group. We have provided a
                                      list of questions, below, to give
                                      you a better idea of the topics we
                                      want to discuss with you, and I’ll
                                      provide a teleconference line
                                      after confirming your availability
                                      (please “reply all” so that others
                                      can know of your availability). In
                                      addition to the discussion, we
                                      would also welcome written
                                      responses.</span></p>
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                                  <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"></span></p>
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                                  <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Would
                                      you be available for a one-hour
                                      time slot during one of the
                                      following blocks?</span></p>
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                                <p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="">
                                  <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                                      </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Wednesday,
                                    April 1</span><sup><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">st</span></sup><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">:
                                    10:00 – 11:00 EST</span></p>
                                <p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="">
                                  <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                                      </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Thursday,
                                    April 2</span><sup><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">nd</span></sup><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">:
                                    11:00 – 12:00 EST</span></p>
                                <p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="">
                                  <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                                      </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Friday,
                                    April 3</span><sup><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">rd</span></sup><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">:
                                    10:00 – 11:00 EST</span></p>
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                                  <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"></span></p>
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                                  <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">We
                                      would also like to meet with Steve
                                      DelBianco and Cheryl Langdon-Orr
                                      to discuss their work with the
                                      Stress Test Work Party. Please let
                                      me know if you’d like to be part
                                      of that meeting, too.</span></p>
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                                  <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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                                  <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Thank
                                      you,</span></p>
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                                  <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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                                  <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">John</span></p>
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