<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">This reminds me of a point I've been meaning to raise. &nbsp;I'd like to request that the meetings of the co-chairs, rapportours, and staff be recorded, transcribed, and posted to the web so we can more easily follow along with the decision making process in the CCWG. &nbsp;Please note that I do not make this request because I suspect any sort of improper behavior at these meetings, but because it would help us to better understand the big picture decisions and issues that we are facing. &nbsp;And since we are an accountability group committed to transparency in our own activities, I would expect there to be no problem with such a request.<div><br></div><div>Thank you,</div><div>Robin<br><div><br></div><div><br><div><br><div><div>On Apr 10, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Greg Shatan wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Counsel:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">CCWG co-chairs now request a pre-meeting with counsel (relating to the Tuesday presentation) from 18.30 to 19.00 UTC on Monday, April 13. (This was moved to avoid conflicts.) &nbsp;Please let us know if counsel will be available at that time.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; line-height: 12pt; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; "><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d">Gregory S. Shatan&nbsp;</span></b><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#17365d">ï</span></b><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d">&nbsp;</span></b><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#c0504d">Abelman
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Adam Peake</b> <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:adam.peake@icann.org">adam.peake@icann.org</a>&gt;</span><br>Date: Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:54 PM<br>Subject: Re: teleconf: external legal advisors and CCWG co-chairs<br>To: Greg Shatan &lt;<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Cc: León Felipe Sánchez Ambía &lt;<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>&gt;, Alice Jansen &lt;<a href="mailto:alice.jansen@icann.org">alice.jansen@icann.org</a>&gt;<br><br><br><div style="word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:16px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px">Thanks Greg. &nbsp;</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px">Co-chairs and their request for &nbsp;</span><font face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:14px">30 mins with the lawyers on&nbsp;Monday:</span></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px">&nbsp;18:30 - 19:00 UTC should also be possible for them, could you ask the lawyers about that time?</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px">Best,</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px">Adam</div></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:black;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Greg Shatan &lt;<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Friday, April 10, 2015 at 1:03 PM<div><div class="h5"><br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Adam Peake &lt;<a href="mailto:adam.peake@icann.org" target="_blank">adam.peake@icann.org</a>&gt;<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> León Felipe Sánchez Ambía &lt;<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>&gt;, Alice Jansen &lt;<a href="mailto:alice.jansen@icann.org" target="_blank">alice.jansen@icann.org</a>&gt;<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: teleconf: external legal advisors and CCWG co-chairs<br></div></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Request made.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; line-height: 12pt; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; "><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(23,54,93)">Gregory S. Shatan&nbsp;</span></b><b><span style="font-size:8pt;color:rgb(23,54,93)">ï</span></b><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(23,54,93)">&nbsp;</span></b><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(192,80,77)">Abelman
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&lt;<a href="mailto:adam.peake@icann.org" target="_blank">adam.peake@icann.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px">Hi Greg,</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px"><font face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:14px">Jordan has confirmed he would like external legal advisors to join the WP1 call&nbsp;next&nbsp;Monday:&nbsp;</span></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px">CCWG-Accountability&nbsp;</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px">WP1</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px">&nbsp;Meeting
 #9 – Monday 13 April 2015</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px">&nbsp;from 20:00– 22:00 UTC. (expected for 90 minutes, 2 hours as a placeholder)</span><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px">Please accept this note as a request for lawyers to join the call.&nbsp; Jordan has distributed an updated document, but I will wait until after today's call before asking you to send to the lawyers.</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px">And could you check if they will be able to send representatives to join a call with the CCWG co-chairs on Monday at 20:00 UTC?</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px">Best,</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px">Adam</div></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span><div style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:black;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Greg Shatan &lt;<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Friday, April 10, 2015 at 11:56 AM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Adam Peake &lt;<a href="mailto:adam.peake@icann.org" target="_blank">adam.peake@icann.org</a>&gt;<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>León Felipe Sánchez Ambía &lt;<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>&gt;, Alice Jansen &lt;<a href="mailto:alice.jansen@icann.org" target="_blank">alice.jansen@icann.org</a>&gt;<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: teleconf: external legal advisors and CCWG co-chairs<br></div><div><br></div></span><div><div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Adam,</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I'm happy to pass this on.&nbsp; However I note that this overlaps with the CWG-IANA meeting of 19:00-21:00, which may be a problem for Sidley (if they are being called on to be at that meeting) and
 the 20:00-22:00 WP1 meeting, which may be a problem for both firms.&nbsp; That said, it may be possible for each firm to use their teams to be in both places at once.&nbsp; However, if there is a time that is not so burdened (on my calendar, 17.00-19.00 UTC on Monday
 is "free."), it might be better to suggest that.&nbsp; To that end, would it make sense to suggest 19:30 UTC instead of 20:00?</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; line-height: 12pt; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; "><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(23,54,93)">Gregory S. Shatan&nbsp;</span></b><b><span style="font-size:8pt;color:rgb(23,54,93)">ï</span></b><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(23,54,93)">&nbsp;</span></b><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(192,80,77)">Abelman
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&lt;<a href="mailto:adam.peake@icann.org" target="_blank">adam.peake@icann.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Dear Greg, Leon:<br><br>
As you know, the co-chairs are adjusting the agenda of Tuesday¹s CCWG call<br>
(Tuesday 14 April 2015 from 12:00 ­ 14:00 UTC) to allow external legal<br>
counsel to provide an overview to the group.&nbsp; Details promised soon.<br><br>
In preparation for this, the co-chairs would like to ask representatives<br>
of both firms to join a call with them at 20.00 UTC on Monday 13 April.<br>
Call duration 30 minutes.&nbsp; The co-chairs can also provide a summary of the<br>
CCWG report (we shared the table of contents) during this call.<br><br>
Could you pass this request to the lawyers and ask them if members of<br>
their teams will be able to join, and if OK, who we should send calendar<br>
invites to.<br><br>
Many thanks,<br><br>
Adam<br><br><br><br><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></div></span></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></div></span></div>
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